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Ka-pi96 said:
Calling them both failures again? It's early days yet.

I wouldn't call it early days for the Wii U, I think the ceiling has been set for it no matter what they do (25-30m).  But at the same time I think it has some room to improve with smash bros, more varied exclusives like beyonetta and X, Zelda in 2015 and the potential for further price cuts.