MistWalker

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ookaze said:

Dodece said:
I honestly have never understood the mindset that you buy a console for one game and one game only especially if that game is years away. That to me is a deluded mindset, and probably an unhealthy one.

Dodece said:
The real question and the only relevant question for the consumer is this. Are you a Final Fantasy fan foremost, or are you a JRPG fan foremost. Thus far this generation the two have been mutually exclusive.

It's a good attempt at rhetoric, unfortunately it's patently false.

Perhaps in your skewed mind it's true, but a JRPG fan usually has at least a bit of the same senses that japanese gamers have, and I can assure you a JRPG fan feelings are not at all that JRPG fan and FF fan are mutually exclusive.

That's just wishful thinking on your part, because surely you placed Mistwalker above all else, and because MS had 1 year head start.

 

Dodece said:

The genre fan would be displeased with Sony's apparent lack of progress. The player that is merely a fan of that particular series probably doesn't care if the PS3 gets anymore games in the genre anyway.

Why? The genre's fan, at least the rational one, just knows that JRPG need time to be made, and that AAA ones won't appear just in the 1st year of a console, even if they started development before the console's launch.

They also know pretty well that FF is not a Sony game, so if they would be displeased with a company, that would be Square Enix. 

You have a strange view of the fans of JRPG series. You seem to think they're different from the fans of other genres.

The fans WILL wait for their favorite to come.

 

Dodece said:
Let us not mince words Sony has done a horrible job, and there just isn't a decent excuse. To be this far behind this far into the game. There are no words for this beyond arrogance and incompetence. The PS3 is literally dead last behind three other consoles on the market, two portable gaming devices, and your PC and your mobile phone are probably doing better.

 Apart from being a barrage of negative words towards Sony, which to me appear worthy of an MS shill only, none of what you just said has anything to do with JRPG or FF or even Mistwalker. The main JRPG market is Japan, so to me, what you say is basically meant to convey a wrong feeling about JRPG for PS3.

The truth is that the worst console for now in the main JRPG market, which is Japan, is the XB360. So for the JRPG market, PS3 is actually second best, and XB360 the worst. Only you are fooled by Mistwalker and 1 year headstart, for now. Fortunately, unless the genre go sinking faster than it has till this day.

 

Dodece said:
So when someone tells me they are a fan of the genre, but they only own a PS3 and think thats good enough. Simply because it will have Final Fantasy some day in the distant future. The only thought I have is that this person is basically full of it. A real genre fan would have taken a butter knife to their wrists ages ago. They wouldn't be satisfied with just one game, or be willing to sit on their hands for two years.

Another barrage of negative words combined with rhetoric. Now with images of death even. You are a skilled one.

Perhaps such a guy would be a fool or even a FF fan instead of a JRPG fan, but full of it?  Full of what?

This guy could be a JRPG fan, fooled in thinking that the JRPG makers would stay on Playstation brand. And when I see as foolish as the JRPG makers are, I'd say the fan wouldn't be entirely wrong.

But the problem of the XB360 is also that Mistwalker's games were basically bought for by MS, and they were flops, when counting the money poured into them. Worst of all, the last ones of their games had too much of a western feel, which won't please any JRPG fan. Their best received JRPG, Blue Dragon, was just sold back quickly with the console, which tells how uninteresting it was to JRPG fans. ASH just flopped on the DS, which is a JRPG haven, where mediocre JRPG will just flop.

Now the situation is that Mistwalker is seen as a company that couldn't sustain itself, if it were to work without the support of MS. Also, their name is associated with at best average JRPG, despite very good Famitsu reviews. Which is even worse, as now, JRPG fans won't even trust Famitsu for their games reviews.

 

Dodece said:
I honestly have never understood the mindset that you buy a console for one game and one game only especially if that game is years away. That to me is a deluded mindset, and probably an unhealthy one.

You have a very closed imagination. FF will attract the JRPG makers to the console that has it. Now the Wii changed all that (not really, it has FF too), but you'll still have proven studios like Level 5 which are developing games for the PS3. You see, contrary to Mistwalker, Level 5 proved themselves, going all the way to making a DQ main game. They also released DS games that actually sell very well, and published it themselves: they can sustain themselves without problem. They are the antithesis to Mistwalker, and they are on the PS3. There's also Sega on the PS3, with a fact that most people won't recognize, but that a JRPG fan will, which is that they have a very good record for their JRPG. Now, they're doing a SRPG for the PS3 too. SRPG is the hardcore genre of JRPG.

Basically, PS3 actually has a good record of JRPG to come soon. Of course, they couldn't come in the first year of the console, which is not even 1.5 years old.

So only you think that JRPG fans bought the PS3 for one game only. Actually, that would rather be true of the XB360.

Passing on several good JRPG studios to go to an unproven one sustained by a western company on a console that is dead in the main JRPG market, is the deluded mindset.

The western company sustaining the studio especially is a strong incentive not to trust them, as they will not have any understanding of such a japanese thing as a JRPG, and could pull out under the dev studio at any time. 

 

Wow thats what i wanted to say....but you said it so much better... i just called him crazy :). Everything you said was so true.