Disappearing Act: Xbox Sales Plummet While Microsoft's Other Devices Continue To Struggle. (With spacing)

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jnemesh said:

The numbers you quoted are suspect in any case.  And MS was patent trolling Android before 2011 anyway...it's just that it came to the media's attention by 2011.  Here's the deal...I DON'T REALLY CARE!  You and I can argue about it until we are both blue in the face, but the FACT is that the people who DO know how badly they are failing see the TRUE numbers, and they AREN'T PRETTY!

If Xbox were successful, you wouldn't hear REPEATED calls from investors to spin off the division!  If they were profitable, NO ONE would have any doubt that they would keep making the console!  But they aren't and they havent been...so the speculation on when MS will pull the plug will continue.

You can delude yourself all you want with the PR spin that MS releases, but the TRUTH is that Xbox is a MINOR part of what MS does, and it's a minor part that LOSES MONEY!  Businesses exist to MAKE money, not lose it.  Once Xbox was part of a "grand scheme" to take over the living room...but the "living room" isn't as important a battleground these days...smartphones and tablets are where the "war" is being fought, and Xbox is nothing but a distraction from what Microsoft's core business is.  Will "Xbox" die?  No.  I am sure you will see "Xbox Music", "Xbox Video" and "XBox Games"....on Lumia handsets.  For the Bone?  It's done.  Just watch.

Do you have a link about MS getting patent royalties prior to 2011? Even if that is true, the quarterly results from FY2008 were posted on July 2008 while Android never came out until September 2008. How do you explain that? Furthermore, Andorid in its infancy couldn't have given as much $$$ as it did in 2011 as it needed time to beas successful as it was. But regardless the links proved that Xbox itself was successful before Android released so I am very confused as to what your reasoning is.

Quarterly results don't lie, and again, Xbox profits were before Android released. Xbox is a minor part in what MS does, and that may be why investors ask for it to be sold, but doesn't mean its posting a loss for years when that is simply not true.

I still don't understand where you are coming from. Do you want Xbox to be gone out of personal bias? Because the links I provided are there for you to see.Again, to summarize, quarterly statements can't lie as that is illegal. Xbox has been profitable since before Android released. Please help me understand where you are coming from, preferably with official statements and numbers.

Seriously I would not be wasting time on this argument. His claims based on the same 4 or so only links in the world (based on the same rumour source) have been refuted here before). The premise of his arguments are one of desire to see Microsoft fail than to to apply logic. In the latest quarter MS E&D saw growth in revenue on the back of less Xone sales but a higher priced console and continuing xbox live revenue which is always healthy because of the payment model of the subscription method which now Sony are trying to copy. 

And my last point I should make, if MS, did want to spin off the Xbox business, no one would want to buy it. Who in their right corporate mind would want to buy the last iteration of a console business before it becomes cloud based which is where MS is going anyhow. For this Nadella is prepared to ride out and support the xbox brand and has in fact said so in an interview I read on CNET.