Is there a god?

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"'If the authorities are wrong'?  Umm, where exactly does he say anything about the authorities being wrong?  He basically says the authorities were chosen by God and because of that they're right." -Legend11

Read my post carefully, i was never implying that he said this, this is on basis of Christianity. Dont take too much into this, all Paul is saying is that you should obey the Government or you'll get in trouble by the government, and because the authoritive rules are there for the benifit of the Human race.  (If there were no laws, there would be no political structure and lead to chaos).

"ps.  That Einstien quote you have in your reply to the other person, I notice a lot of religious people use it and try to imply that Einstien was religious, but in the lecture in which he used that quote he tore apart the idea of the Christianity's image/belief of/in God so I always find it ironic when Christians quote it." - Legend11

I didn't qoute Einstein because i agree with his moral values, ethics, philosophies, or personal beliefs, i qouted him because i agree with his quote. Don't look to much into what i say i really don't have alot of those hidden meanings.

"You obviously are missing something again! If God is omnipotent no one would suffer or die. The rest of what you said is disproven because god could just change it (yup he's omnipotent). It has nothing to do with someone's cause of death." - DuncanMcNeil

Where do you get that logic. If God is all-powerful no one would suffer or die? People suffer or die because we left God omnipotence, and thus left his main protection. He still cares about us so he protects us from alot of things but God wants us to freely chose to be part of his power. How does God being omnipotent help your arguement at all? (No offense) 

"Please don't try and pollute my life with magic. My life has nothing to do with Zeus's thunderbolts and it has nothing to do with any abrahmic religion either." - DuncanMcNeil

Again, you're better than that. Really.

 "No. Omnipotent beings don't change their mind about things. You're not reading the bible again! Homosexuality is natural, which part of it comes from somewhere that is not nature? Nothing is not natural - such an idea is ridiculous. It doesn't matter if it is a choice or not - as long as it's not your choice whether it exists or not." -DuncanMcNeil

How did i say that an All-Powerful being was changing thier minds? And about Homosexuality, when i said its not natural, i mean it is a weakness in nature. Naturally a being would surive for the sole purpose of passing down genes. How could you do that if you are a Homosexual. And by stating nothing is not natural, what you mean is that "nothing is new under the sun". I didn't mean not natural as in its supernatural mind you. And a choice, that's what we have because of free will, so i don't understand your point.

 "Is this king magical too? He can live forever, throughout the crusades at least, old guy. Those people went to war in the name of Jesus, though according to you they started a religious war for no religious reason. It only took 700 years after constantine and they were ready to kill for something they can't prove ever existed. All of the wars were against muslims. It was a HOLY war, hence, the name "Crusades." Obviously not only do you need to actually read the bible - but you need to read a lot more." -DuncaMcNeil

What are you talking about? Learn some history. King Richard was a real person who was in the crusades, and surrendered to the Muslims due to the fact that he didn't want to risk the lives of the innocent people. And yes you are correct, the people went to war for no religious reason. And by your logic, everyone that was before your birth never existed. In fact, how can you be sure how old you are, if the only way to know is by the information by others? The Crusades/Jihads were holy wars that took place between the Muslims and the Christians for no religious reasons. 

The First Crusades were for the protection of the Byzantine Empire from the advancing Muslim army. The next ones were for the purpose of controlling the Holy Land which is NOT a reason (based on Christianity) to go to war. During those times is when the event with King Richard happened. Obviously you need to read alot a more.

" No good god would ever let people kill in his name. This means that one of these groups is right, neither of these groups are right, or god is evil." - DuncanMcNeil

No good God would force people to do what he says. No good God would forcibly stop sin from the minds of people. But a just God, who has never sinned (because How can God be God if he sinned? Then he is not God) will judge all the people of the Earth, and a kind God will give them plenty of time to change and ask for forgiveness. Also, how about both these groups are wrong, because they fight for a foolish cause? It has been written, that these two groups with argue with each other for Eternity, ever since Jacob and Esau (pretty sure that's the one).

 "Is pi really 3?" - DuncanMcNeil

What?

"Why doesn't god heal amputees? If god were good and all powerful he would. I would do it if I could, and certainly a perfect god would have to be better than me. Either god is evil or he doesn't exist. Either the bible is written by god or it isn't? Read the bible and disprove anything I have said. As of now you haven't said anything at all. You're not reading it - otherwise you'd have seen what it really says. Read it from start to finish, don't skip the bits you think are written by god on a bad day." -DuncanMcNeil

What? Am i going to have to type the same point over again? God is not evil. If God was evil he could not be God. You have no idea what your talking about when you say "God". Look, i'm no Catholic. I'm a Christian, I read the Bible. I'm sure your not reading it - otherwise you'd have seen what it really says. Read it from start to finish, don't skip the bits that you think are written by a contradictory fool on anyday, read everything and don't nitpick. Be wise for once and be open-minded. That's why i say you're ignorant. You mind is narrow. 

*Ok from earlier now *

"I am sure that atheists are not immoral. You're twisting the statistics because you think christians are better people than atheists. You think christians are good people for one of two reasons:

1. Racism, slavery, rape, and war are good things to you.

2. Or you have not read the bible." -DuncanMcNeil

And all of sudden all Athiest have perfect morals and all Christians are beneath you and your atheism. Perfect way to prove your point.

1. What?

2. What?

 "I don't really care for murderers and rapists." - DuncanMcNeil

This is what seperates a follower of Christ from you. You lack Love. You don't care about other people.

 "Agreed, and you should not either, if a smart person reads the bible - they will know God is evil or imaginary. Christianity IS flawed." -DuncanMcNeil

And we all aren't smart people? I'll tell you the truth. If a Man reads the bible (not some sort of evolved beast) than thethey will know that God is beyond the concept of human understanding. They will know that People ARE flawed. I see no flaw in Christianity.

 "Christ was innocent? I think you're missing the part where he advocated slavery and was racist. Not to mention, no socieities take kindly on people who claim to be under the direct lineage of god."  -DuncanMcNeil

Tell me, how did he advocate slavery and was racist? You're not maing sense at all. Say what your talking about. And the Jwes who accused Jesus believe that a Messiah will come who is of God, and save them. They just didn't see Jesus as a fit candidate because he was tolerant of different races, and sinners, and he had a message of peace rather than a message of war against the Romans.

 I'm tired, but truthfully Duncan, alot of what you said is ignorant, others are foolish, others make no sense, and the rest are you bashing Christianity for no reason. And you stated that i'm trolling? Go back a few pages and read, and maybe you'll see i'm full-fledgedly stating why there is a God. God Is because He Is. I haven't come up against any reason that disproves God's existance. Don't take me as a fool. You have to step up.

However, this is what i posted before about. The "scientists" who abolish Nescience with Science, and refuses to let them co-exist. For this is the sole reason i posted that qoute, but i guess you failed to see that. You sound so uneducated, like you got your intelligence from walking into a church and talking to some of the Catholic people that you see around you, and by watching TV and youtube videos. I'd rather be talking to someone who gave actual reasons against God, than what your saying. I don't even think you know what your saying. But that's just me. I know God Is, because of Faith. That's that.