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BMaker11 said:
Machiavellian said:

I want you to read the bolded part of what I wrote and than think about about what you just posted.  Did you understand what I was asking.  I will reiterate it again.  I could not find anyone from MS that stated they could not change the 24hr check or that Kinect support could not be removed.  

What you just stated was the original policy and the X1 software.  No one is arguing what the original policy was we all know that part.  The question is where did MS lie to consumers.  People specificly stated they believe MS owe them an apology for lying.  The post I was responding to stated that MS lied about not being able to remove the DRM and Kinect.  What you posted has absolutly nothing I was commenting on and is something totally different.  In discussions like these people need to read everything as you lose context of what is being discussed.

Major Nelson said you "can't flip a switch" and turn off DRM since "the console was built around it"

Phil Harrison said "Xbox One is Kinect. They aren't separate systems" which implies that removal was impossible. It'd be akin to removing the RAM and expecting the system to still work

edit: and if you take "you can't flip a switch" to mean "it's not that the DRM is unable to change, it's that it'll take hard work and time to change it", well, first off, they literally did just "flip a switch". E3 2013 was June 11-13, the 180 happened on the 19th of the same month. And if the console was "built around it", it implies that it can't be changed. Wii was built around motion controls....you couldn't just "flip a switch" and get rid of the Wii mote. PS3 was built around blu-ray and high capacity games. You couldn't just "flip a switch" and get rid of Blu-ray. That's what "built around" means.

Cutting the PR crap, they are merely part of a hierarchy and it was their job to stay behind their product and what it stood for at the time. Until authorized otherwise, they shouldn't have been allowed to raise doubt about their business model.

"can't flip a switch" = It will take some time but it can be done. Hey, even one week is more time then "flipping a switch". I'm sure MS had many working long hours to remedy that asap

"the console was built around it" = Technically that isn't a lie. MS still believes the console is at it's best with Kinect attached, espcially when voice commanding your TV/media.

"Xbox One is Kinect. They aren't separate systems" = They wanted solidarity in their SKU lineup and not seperate userbases like 360 kinect did.

The quotes are more about their vision then physical hardware limitations. You just have to brush up on PR speak to get the real message.



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