The Xbox One: A Lying Failure Machine

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Machiavellian said:

Xenostar said:

Machiavellian said:

Well I guess that’s an answer.  I do have to say I consider it more like you do not have a real solid opinion so turn it on me.  I asked a question and gave my reason why I thought it was a smart move for MS to drop Xbox Entertainment since their new focus under Phil is games and gaining back the core gamers.

Not sure who post you have seen but I have said plenty of times what i believe MS mistakes were, bad policy, miscommunication, bad planning, way to corporate, missed opportunities, not keep the mantra of developers first, getting totally outclassed by Sony and a host of others.  Just because I do not view everything they have done as bad does not mean I do not acknowledge their issues.  The difference with me is that I do not form any emotional attachment to any corporation.  I give praise where I see it and I have given plenty to Sony because they have made the most improvement coming back from Hubris.  

 

With that said, I believe MS has also come back from their hubris.  Not completely but I see a totally different strategy and refocus on what will make the X1 a success.

Ok but like the video said, no one is saying these moves arent for the better for the gamer, its saying MS should apologise even if it is to a very tiny minority that did buy the console for all the TV TV TV stuff. Because the promises of that stuff is getting stripped out.

Like it or not the X1 was built on lies. But yes thankfully from a gamer perspective it is better than all that shit has been stripped out or made optional.

They said removing DRM was impossible, it wasnt

They said removing Kinect was impossible, it wasnt

This is where I differ in opinion.  You only apoligize if you were at fault.  MS was not at fault about what they wanted to do instead they were at fault at how they communicated their plan because it was not finished.

Maybe I just have a different opinion on what a lie is.  A lie would mean that MS told you they wanted to sell a digital console but in reality they really wanted to sell you a 360 with upgraded hardware.  This would be a lie if you bought the X1 on the assumption that it was a digital console but got a 360 based console instead.  Instead MS wanted to sell you a digital console but console gamers told MS they wanted is exactly how the 360 is today but with better hardware.  MS changed the system to reflect what the market wanted and released a 360 based console, removing a lot of the digital only features.  Not sure how thats lying but could you elaborate on your definition.

@ BOLDED:  This is why corporations need to make sure there is one cental place for such comminication.  When Larry Hurb (AK Major Nelson) made that comment, you knew he was going to get torched for it.  The reason why is because as we see today, one person not even the director of the Xbox division but just a marketing face made a comment which probably was done as a knee jerk reaction before checking in with the boss, is considered as a lie from MS.  

People get themselves into trouble like this all the time.  When Larry was interviewed by Anry Joe and he made the statements concerning the 24 hour check in and Kinect integration he really did not know the answer but he chose to answer the question.  It then becamed the Lie from MS when they did decide to change gears.  I believe this was a hard lesson for MS to learn because such interviews get posted on the net and discussed on just about every forum you can name.  If anything maybe Larry should apologize for making statements before he actually check in with the boss to see if they are correct.

Yeah i see you just dont understand the definition of a "a lie" then :)

Saying you will never do something and then doing it, means you told a lie.   It really is that simple, there may have been the best of intentions behind it but it doesnt change the fact it was a lie.