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naruball on 21 July 2014
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iceland said:
Fusioncode said:

He's not complaining about Microsoft reversing their original vision, he's upset about their constant lies. Saying you can't just turn off the always online, or that XBO will never come without Kinect. A lot of early adopters bought the XBO based on Microsoft's statements only for them to backpedal damn near everything they said. 

Isn't that reversing their original vision though? I don't really how they can win either way...

MS: XBO will never come without Kinect

Gamers: STOP FORCING THAT POS ON US!!

MS: You can now buy the Xbox One without the Kinect

Gamers: OMG YOU LIARS!!

It all just seems really pointless to me...

Shit changes, I don't really see the big issue here they're changing to appeal to more consumers. 

I think there is not necessarily a right way of reacting to MS' actions. The way I see it, there are two sides of the coin:

1. Damned if you do, damned if you don't (exactly what you said)

2. Trying to figure out just how much you can screw consumers over. Example (I'm not saying the bolded happened; I'm sure most of us now that it was simply an error, but still, "what if"):

EA: How can we rip off consumers even more?

Employee 1: no babies or swimming pools for Sims 4

Employee 2: always online for SimCity 5(?)

Employee 3: Charge for demos?

Did people forgive EA for taking away the always online from SImCIty? Well, if sales are any indication, not really. "But they listened to the consumers", right? I saw no one saying that. But with MS it's different? How exactly?

What if they were trying to charge for demos (I'm almost certain they didn't) and only changed their mind after not only the backlash but also people not paying for it?

The problem is that certain policies are so bad that they shouldn't be enforced/announced in the first place. They reassured the consumers that things won't change (as in "Don't wait for kinectless xb1, not happening" only for it to happen and some early adopters being stuck with it. I think they should have compensated the consumers somehow (with a game or something).

To me, the "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" approach would only make sense if it was about something gray, not balck.

For example: "early access". Some think it's great, others don't. If there is enough backlash about it, Sony should listen to their fans and not offer it on ps4. If, on the other hand, they announce tomorrow "Awesome news, guys. You can buy games a week before launch just for an extra £10er. No additional content, you just get to play it before others". If ps4 sales then plummet and decide to cancel it, they aren't listening to the fans, they are forced to do something because they have no other choise.