| BMaker11 said: #1 pointing out the tiniest minutia of a point he's trying to make, then going on the fritz about it in an attempt to try and discredit everything he's saying makes it seem like you're trying your damnedest to disagree at something (since you probably don't like the thread topic, at all). |
lol @ not liking the thread topic. Whatever you need to tell yourself. A big piece of his logic pie regarding PS4's supposed lack of games is that Sony apparently offers much more support for their consoles after the successors are out, while Nintendo and MS do not. As an Xbox 360 and PS3 owner, I know this statement to be 100% pure BS, so I called him out on it. Because the rest of point #1 is pretty much all subjective.
| BMaker11 said: First off, those were all cross platform games (Twilight Princess for GCN/Wii, Spartan Assault, Fable, Horizon, Fantasia, Project Spark, STF, Warface for XB1/360) meaning they aren't really incentives for either console. Fable Anniversary is the only exclusive in your example. Not that I want to completely disregard those games because they aren't truly exclusive...but that's not "dedication to the platform" to still make it appealing. I bet Titanfall on 360 would have sold gangbusters and moved 360s if it wasn't on Xbone. Yes, Xbone is the platform they are pushing now, which they obviously should, but I don't think "support" when the 360 is treated like the redheaded stepchild in these scenarios. Grasping at straws here, maybe, but let's be practical here. |
Yeah, it is grasping at straws. But that's ok, nothing tickles my funny bone in a discussion like straw grasping, and goal post shifting. Is there anything that can make a person better feel like they presented the superior argument than someone having to so drastically alter the rules in order to present what they deem to be an acceptable retort?
Look at this for example. You're actually downplaying support for a console because it's cross platform. Somehow that makes them "not really incentives for either console", which is a load of crap. And besides the point anyway. Whether you think the games are appealing, or an incentive for the console owners, doesn't change the fact that MS either internally developed or published the games on the platform. Providing support. It's not rocket science.
| BMaker11 said: Meanwhile, GT6 has already released, and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, KH 2.5 HD Remix, LPB Hub, Mugen Souls Z, Persona 5, Tales of Symphonia Chronicles, and The Witch and the Hundred Knight came out or will come out this year, only on PS3. They're not first party (except LBP Hub), but you asked "did Sony even support Ni No Kuni?" Did 3rd party exclusivity return to being free? If not, I'd say they supported it. |
Your dismissive attitude towards those games MS actually had a big hand in bringing to 360 is made a million times more hilarious/sad when you later are here giving Sony credit for games they had nothing to do with, based on nothing more than sheer speculation that "hey, sony probably maybe paid for this exclusive release guys!1!". LOL. If speculation on paying for an exclusive factor qualifies for support then I could easily add games like Titanfall, Peggle 2, PvZ, etc to my list of MS support. I mean, hey, they paid to make them timed exclusive = support.
Are you done reaching? I hope not. I want this to be like Inception. I wanna see a reach within a reach within a reach. I mean hey I am sure at some point Sony had to supply EA some PS3 dev kits, right? Hey that means Sony supported Battlefield 4 on PS3! And next month without Sony's support, PS3 wouldn't see Madden 15! Oh man no wonder some people here shift goal posts and reach so much, bickering is so much easier when you can just pull whatever you want out of your butt.
Of course, even after all of this, all we are left with is a situation where the OP is still incorrect. You can reach and speculate and make up new rules for supporting a console and provide me a list of 300 PS3 games, it won't change the fact that MS has still supported the 360 very well after November's Xbone launch, or that Nintendo provided the Wii with a huge Zelda title. Hope that helps.
| BMaker11 said: #2 You pretty much ignored points 2 and 3, but complaining about one detail in the first paragraph and the whole thread is now inaccurate and should "really" be called something else? Ok. |
Where did I say his entire thread should be called something else? I am talking about the part I quoted from him. "nintendo and MS don't support their console after their successors are out". That can just be called something "Things people say and decide to forget when talking bad about Nintendo and MS." Are you understanding now? Ok, good. LOL.
| BMaker11 said: #3 I don't like any Xbox games, and I've decided not to try them out. Xbox has no games, confirmed. Sounds silly, right? I mean, there is Forza 5, Dead Rising 3, the "definitive" version of Titanfall, Plants vs Zombies, Killer Instinct, and Sunset Overdrive and Halo 5 are coming soon. But I've decided not to try them, therefore XBone has no games. You'd get called out for saying something as stupid as that, because it's meant to be disparaging, not reflect any kind of reality. Whether you like a particular game or not. If what you said is the true definition of "no games", then entire libraries can be discredited. But I'm betting if someone seriously said "XBone has no games", many MS fans would say "you keep telling yourself that, I'll keep enjoying Halo 5". |
This is all a wonderful story and all, but why am I supposed to care? In your little story, why did you not care to try any of those Xbone games? Is it because they don't appeal to you? If so, then why would you bother to try them? You'd be just in claiming Xbone has no games. Of course, I would put it in a better form, such as "Xbone has no games I would play", kind of like I do with PS4. But again, irrelevant. I was merely explaining to the OP that he kind of answered his own problem with the moniker. I hope that helps both of you.
And I am not going to bother replying to you again on this matter as I have already made my point and don't feel like a petty back and forth about how vital Sony's support has been for Call of Duty AW on PS3 this year, or whatever hilarious reach you intended to make next.
Edit: Moderated - Starcraft
