Will the XB1 be able to outsell the Wii U from this point on?

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LudicrousSpeed said:

Experimental42 said:

The difference was already going to be there with or without the deals. Let me buy this inferior copy of the game for a less powerful system that until recently cost $100 more, said no one ever.

There's roughly 72 million children in the world that want smart toys like the amiibo. There are only 6.6mil Wii U's currently in homes. There's a lot of room to grow in that demographic, and they have almost no competition whatsoever. That's not even considering the adults and collectors already interested. The ENTIRE Smash community too, which is kinda old these days.

Yeah XB1 has a slew of third party AAA titles, that no one's really buying. The biggest exclusive so far was released to a collective "Meh" after being heralded as the second coming of XB FPS dominance. Third party sales are dropping badly, to the point the 360 outsold the XB1 this NPD on WDs, the biggest third party release yet this gen. It barely outsold the PS3 as well.

Halo is on the decline and has lost its must have status. It's not as big a deal as it once was, and several new IPs have risen on Sony's side since Halo was king. Halo is on the decline and on a floundering console. The first Halo saved the Xbox from utter failure by setting the standard for online FPS. It continued with a bang on the console because the 360 was wildly popular for the same reasons the XB1 are unpopular. Fans dislike the direction the series last entry took it, the sales are on the decline, and there's no new innovation or console dominance to buoy it.

I also don't see where people get off thinking the holidays will magically put the XB1 ahead when it has arguably the least impressive of all holiday line-ups An HD remaster that gives you access to a beta is their holiday game? Yeah Sony doesn't really have a killer app exclusive listed currently for the holidays, just LBP3, but they don't really need it since they dominate the multiplat sales so badly. Yes, you can count multiplats as a system seller for PS4 and not XB1 because, all things being equal, NOBODY will buy an XB1 for multiplats now.

Nintendo has a small list of decent games, a potential monster in amiibo, an anticipated price drop, and possibly two of the most desired bundles this holiday season with Smash and a re-packaged Mario Kart Bundle. Yeah you can say Mario Kart was already released, but depending on the effects of amiibo it could see a resurgence.

Oh yeah man, I am totally sure people looking to buy a system today will take into account what a console USED to cost. I mean, I bet even with the WiiU there are people who think "you know, right now I can get a WiiU plus NSMBWiiU/LuigiU for only $300, but Nintendo used to sell the system for $350 just with Nintendoland LOL! Fuck that!". Also, you seem to believe there is this massive sales difference in games between the two consoles. AFAIK the Xbone still has a higher software attach rate. The area where games will see a significant sales boost on PS4 are games that sell well in areas where the PS4 has a huge userbase advantage, or games where Sony buys marketing and exclusive content deals. Other than that the sales difference in 3rd party games have been around half a million or less for a majority of titles, which when you consider PS4 has a userbase almost double in size, that's not that big of an accomplishment.

So back to the argument. The idea that publishers won't make these deals with the platform where the game sells less on, has already been debunked multiple times this gen and last gen as well. Games sold more on 360 but publishers still made PS3 deals. Games looked better on 360 but people still bought the PS3 versions, too. And PS3 deals didn't stop games from selling on 360. So there's no risk for publishers, only sweet, sweet rewards. I hope that helps.

I already said Amiibo will be good for Nintendo. LOL @ those numbers though. So I haven't checked Skylanders or Infinity sales, but I guess they must sell in the tens of millions? Oh my bad, just over 4 million across 7 different platforms for the latest Skylander. Wow.

I am glad WD didn't sell well on Xbone. It was a misleading game with blatant lies for marketing and more importantly the game is just not fun. You're also talking about a game where Sony paid for massive marketing deals and content deals. Idk why you would be shocked the game sold better on PS4, or that the Xbox 360 version sold better than a next gen version. It also outsold both next gen versions of NBA 2k14. I guess this means 3rd party sales are also doomed on PS4? LOL.

It's ok dude, we get it. You don't think much of Halo in terms of market power anymore. We already tackled this. You admit Nintendo has nothing that will directly combat Halo but has a multitude of titles that can gang up on it and beat it. Cool beans. Of course, this logic works directly against you because you're in one hand saying Nintendo has these amazing titles coming this year that Xbone can't match, but in the other hand saying it will take multiple of these titles just to match Halo, and then in a freak mutant 3rd hand you're also claiming Halo is not that big a deal anymore. Which begs the question, why would Nintendo then need multiple titles to match it?

The best part of the post is you claiming great 3rd party games can be an advantage for PS4, but not Xbone. When the discussion is Xbone versus Wii U. Of course, lets just ignore your opinion that people won't buy the Xbone for multiplats, because it's laughably incorrect but not worth arguing about. These multiplats don't just disappear just because the PS4 also has them. What if someone is picking between an Xbone and a WiiU? The slew of great 3rd party games coming to Xbone just somehow don't count? When you need to stack the deck like that, take a hint.

That was a long reply to reapet the same thing. Atach rate might be great for x1 but its still selling less than ps4. and its not that third partys dont sell the x1 is just that if you are only interested in the big AAA thir party titles then there is no way you would get an x1 for them since the ps4 plays them better and will probably have exclusive content. And the reason the ps3 had deals with publishers is that the ps3 sold well WW unlike the x1 whos 60% of sales where in the US the rest of the world preferd it and the devs where from thous countrys that preferd the ps3. The only people who would pick betwen an x1 or wiiu are people who already have a ps4, so there is no way they would pick an x1 since its just an inferior version of a ps4 with less upcoming games, but the wii u is a breath of fresh air with almost all games so diferent than anything on ps4 or x1. So in this case no, big third party AAA wont count at all.