How long before Xbox Division is no longer integral to MS long term vision?

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prayformojo said:

Machiavellian said:

prayformojo said:

What happened with Xbox is a result, a DIRECT result, of putting a product on shelves and viewing it as a product instead of having a love and passion for it. Nintendo IS gaming. That's all they freakin' do. Criticize all you want, but the men and women who make games like Animal Crossing, along with the president himself, truly have a passion and love for games and their ability to bring joy to the world. This is why they have stayed afloat for so long. It's not enough to make something that you think will make money. You have to BELIEVE in it, and love it as well.

Xbox has been nothing but a cold, sterile "product" for many years now and this is why it's crumbling. No vision, no passion and absolutely NO soul behind the brand what so ever. Video games aren't mops or paper plates. They're as much art as they are a product. When you have a bunch of ceo, suit wearing egg heads dipping into the world of "art", it's always going to end poorly.

 Having a vision that conincide with consumers is way more important then passion.

Consumers is such a generic term and can mean lots of things. I think what Nintendo does on the business side of things, is look at long term goals. Sony and MS chase trends. Nintendo tries to look past them or flat out make them all by themselves. That's why they have been turning a profit for damn near their entire run as a game maker. 

But at the heart of this, is the fact that, like I said, they ARE games. This is all they do. They don't make OS for mobile and PC machines, tv's, portable music players, cell phones or try to make "entertainment machines." They make GAME CONSOLES and GAMES...period. I think that level of dedication and passion, that leads to knowledge and that knowledge allows them to succeed where other fall.

I would agree with you on MS and Nintendo.  Gaming for MS is a possible extra market to make some money out of.  Nintendo IS gaming (regardless of how much many people do not like their games).  I do not really agree with you on Sony though.  Sony wants gaming to save their company and/or other Sony products (Think about it.  PS1 = CD, PS2 = DVD, PS3 = BlueRay, PS4 = Saving Sony).  It started out as a good way to upsale their other technologies, but now its morphed into a possible savior for the Company.