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Machiavellian said:

The fact that Skype, Windows Phone, Bing, Surface,  and a host of other stuff are within the same Entertainment/Devices unit, there is no way for anyone to know if the xbox division is losing money.  Just the fact that XBL is a revenue maker alone and the 360 is also very profitable, where exactly is MS losing money from the Xbox division.  The X1 hardware is also profitable or pretty close as was shone by many different breakdowns of the hardware.  

One of the main reasons why some investors want MS to spin off the Xbox division is not that its losing money but instead it makes money.  They want MS to only concentrate on their core and Spin off the Xbox division for a brief revenue gain and increase in the stock price. There are plenty of graphs out there that suggest that the Xbox is the only division that makes money within the EDD group.

Also in your link you forget to mention that Sherlund is an opinion piece not fact.  Sherlund does not know the make up of profit and losses between all the business units that make up  Entertainment and Devices than anyone else outside of MS.  

Again, why don't you spin this off in its own separate thread where it can really be discussed.  This is my last reply on the subject here.


like i said.. don't need more doom and gloom MS threads..

also.. sources?  everything i've seen up to this point paints a different picture from what you are saying..



Man.. I hate it when your girl has to leave my place to come back to you..