Question: Do Playstations fans seriously think Xbox fans can take 1st?

[sales2099]

BMaker11 said:

sales2099 said:

Know thy enemy. I'd really like to know where you guys stand, and even fellow Xbox fans for that matter.

To me anyway, the main perception mistake is this:

Selling better = 1st Place

This means things "that can save us" like the removing of controversal polocies, Xbox 1 Games for Gold, removing Gold paywall for apps, Titanfall, removing kinect/$399 price drop. And now in the future people seem to think that the tier 2 countries, China launch head start, Sunset Overdrive and Halo MCC will magically shoot us to the top.

Look, we aren't blind to geographical sales data. We didn't get a head start launch like last gen. Mainland Europe and Japan aren't going to win this for us. China is a wild card that will likely not amount to much. Hell we will be lucky to eventually take NA. Exclusives give boosts but tend not to last as they have to be consistent throughout the year to have lasting results.

What we DO want, is X1 to be a better version of itself. And we are getting that. Polocies we didn't like are gone, we now have free games for Gold, we are getting more indie games, Kinect is an option, and we have a surprising amount of AAA variety that isn't available on our competition. And now Xbox Entertainment is closed, something I personally never cared for (aside from the Halo projects) since they had zero benefit to the gamer. What the issue is, is that PS fans believe that X1's recent sales boosts and changes will skyrocket it to 1st place....at least they think that we believe that. We do not. We haven't even taken 2nd yet, geez ;).

Selling better /= 1st place. I get it. Some people here felt the last place sting in the 7th gen and want to secure their position once again. You have it. You can brag and gloat, as is tradition in the console war, but at least be educated enough that we realize we aren't going to overtake you guys this gen. X1 being a comfortable 2nd, being successful enough to continue a sustainable business is what we want.

So yes, the $399 SKU, tier 2 counties launch, Halo MCC, and Sunset Overdrive will "save" Xbox One.....from its 2013 self, not for what PS fans seem to think.

Bro, what forum have you been reading? Did you see that "XBone sales doubled" thread? PS fans were saying the price cut didn't do anything (comparing to April as opposed to May since that was  a price cut hold off month). I've said that Titanfall didn't do anything because on a weekly average, March NPD was lower than February (March was 5 weeks, February was 4). And apparently Xbox fans "don't want to rent. they want to own" so XBone GwG can't be seen as a boost.

Is this a stealth troll? (If I get banned for that, I will come back more powerful than you can ever imagine). I have seen exactly 0 PS fans say that XBone's "recent boosts" will help it take 1st place (or at least, PS fans saying Xbox fans believe this)....because there haven't been any real boosts. So how can you even make that generalization? Even in the NPD thread, before June NPD was released, every PS fan was saying "VGC overtracks X1, undertracks PS4, so with VGC having PS4 ahead for June already, the gap is going to be even greater". How does that translate to: "PS fans think X1 will take 1st"?

edit: Only thing I've seen is that "Xbone will take NA" thread from TheDrill that keeps getting bumped. But that's for shits and giggles because of how epically wrong it is

Finally someone who talks sense ;)