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Experimental42 on 18 July 2014
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LudicrousSpeed said:


1. All of these deals publishers strike, they won't change depending on market totals. Especially since neither console is going to be a bomb. Their games are going to sell great on these consoles no matter what. The money made off these deals are just icing on the cake. And publishers know the money made off them is well worth the potential loss from consumers who don't buy as a result of the deals. Look at last gen. Did the fact that multi plat games typically sold better on 360 prevent the PS3 from getting these deals? No. But suddenly it will happen to MS? 

2. Being appealing in more markets won't matter when the Xbone is more appealing in bigger markets.

3. Your logic regarding Halo just doesn't make sense. Who cares if it doesn't sell 9 million, or if it doesn't outsell CoD or Battlefield or Destiny. Are these Japanese WiiU games going to sell 9 million? Are they going to outsell CoD or Battlefield or Destiny? No. Is WiiU even getting most of these games? No.

4. The support is exactly why the WiiU is doomed. Having AAA 3rd party support that might look a tad better on another platform is still a million times better than not having that support at all. 


Yeah, those deals actually will change depending on market totals, which is why Sony is getting the better of the exclusive features. Companies will always favor the version of a multiplat that will make them more money. The Playstation Version of Destiny will sell a lot more than the XB1 version, so it's in the dev's best interest to add exclusive bonuses to it to encourage better sales. The only way MS is going to get deals like that is if they pay more for them than Sony + the loss of sales.

XB1 is more appealing in the American market now, but it doesn't mean it will stay that way. They clearly aren't capturing nearly as much of the teen/adult market as they want, and they sure as hell won't capture children and casuals. If Nintendo cashes in on the amiibo they will catch almost all of that demographic.

Just because a culture that's 95% lactose intolerant isn't buying your ice cream doesn't mean they don't like dessert. Nobody has offered the Japanese much that's to their liking outside of handhelds this gen. They didn't just give up, they just aren't appealed to. The first console to actually land a major JRPG is going to prove the Japanese will buy consoles. It may be Sony or Wii U, but It won't be the XB1.

What people are really overlooking is the amiibo. It lets third parties cash in on the smart toy market without having to make their own hardware. If you think third parties don't care about cashing in on something that's grown so rapidly and has so many children and adults interested, you're thick. The amiibo may just be what brings much needed support to Nintendo.

Also, Halo won't do as well this time around as it did on the 360. It's on the inferior system with the smaller install base and there are now more and better alternative for the FPS Genre. The series has been on the decline since Halo 3. And while the Nintendo titles may not individually sell in the order of magnitude that Halo and Gears will in the US, they will collectively sell enough WW to stay compatitive with Microsoft's first party games. And before you say "Nintendo games will only sell to people who already have the Wii U" you better have a good reason why that won't apply to the XB1.

 

I'm well aware that Metroid hasn't been officially announced yet, but they did talk about planning console and handhed versions of it. They said they'd like Retro to work on it, and Reggie was wearing a Metroid pin after DKC came out. The pins he wears usually provide hints to upcoming titles. Retro has been working on a top secret game since wrapping up DKC, and I really doubt Nintendo was going to double down on karting by putting all of Retro on DKR2.

And don't act like Mario Galaxy's successor isn't eventually coming. Every Nintendo console gets its own flagship mario title. NES: SMB, SNES: SMW. N64: SM64, GC: SMS, Wii: SMG, and whatever the hell they're giving the Wii U. No Super Mario 3D World isn't the big Mario of the Wii U, its part of the 3D spinoffs, Nintendo loving to put the plumber in tons of the damn things.