Newcomers in SSB for WiiU! Lucina!!! Robin!!! and Captain Falcon Returns! 4 FE Reps and No Shulk :0

[ToraTiger]

Super_Boom said:

ToraTiger said:

Yes their is a shortage of characters when comparing it to Brawl, and we didn't need Lucina taking up another slot.  What do you think fans will think when they see two Marths right next to eachother on the selection screen,  when chances are most people are only familar with Marth in Smash.   There are plenty of other niche's that have a better chance of becoming bigger than Fire Emblem, and they refuse.  Fire Emblems been in the US for over a decade now, and I think it's best if they give another series some spot time since Fire Emblem isn't a game for everyone, and the sales have consistiently showed that.  Sorry, I don't trust this site for Nintendo sales, I want actual NPD or Media, or from Nintendo themselves.  Once upon a time there was a RPG on GBA like FE, called Golden Sun, recieve praise, dedicated fan base and great sales, the series finally made a comeback a few years ago, and would be perfect for smash, but no, assist trophy only.  

I've not completely lost interest in it, but when I heard Sakurai say this was the last stash video, I was expecting something else than Fire Emblem.   What with their only being 2 Metroid characters and also 4 Zelda characters.  Honestly I'm also a huge fan of Fire Emblem, but I know that not everyone's interested in that kind of game and they actually lose $$$ rather than gain it not to mention the reps are from a game released just last year. 

1st bold: The character count has already passed Brawl, so I don't get how there's a shortage compared to a game that had less characters, with several clones of its own.

2nd bold: I would have been happy with Isaac or Matthew being included in this game, but the IPs aren't really comparable. Golden Sun's story was basically concluded, minus a loose end here or there, when Brawl came out, and its most recent foray wasn't very well received. That could change, but right now we have Dark Dawn and Awakening to compare the franchises with...which doesn't really do GS any favors.

3rd bold: I don't understand how they'd lose money by including characters that fans want. Unless you mean their investment in the franchise itself....but given that Fire Emblem generally doesn't have very high production values, I'd have a tough time seeing how they're losing money on it. 

As for it being released last year....that's really nothing new. Ike and Roy were included in Brawl and Melee to promote Radiant Dawn and Sword of Seals, and several other characters have used designs from their most recent iterations. Smash Bros. is a great fanservice game...but it's also a great marketing tool to gauge what fans want to play. It's why we have FIre Emblem over here in the first place, and likely why Kid Icarus received a reboot.

1. Brawl was released on Wii 6 years ago, there was a limit as to how much they could fit on the disc, and the game pretty much maxed the space allotted on a Wii DVD.  Since they're are 36 characters (I think), and these were the last of them, that is severally dissapointing to me.    Lucina seems like a completely unnessary to have her own slot

2. That's the thing though,  Awakening recieved tons of advertisements from Nintendo and the series was already publicized heavily in Melee and Brawl.  And let's be honest, there isn't as much to play on 3DS as DS, I think Shadow Dragon and Dark Dawn would be a better comparison even though that game also has "Marth" in it.

3.  They could include more Niche characters into it, or even more third parties to widen the appeal and investment to the other franchises.  Like I said, Fire Emblem recieved enough publicity from Melee and Brawl, more than almost all the other Nintendo series.  Imagine if Xenoblade, a game with high praise and good sales given it's genre, console and time of release, ( and piracy) could be given massive amounts of publicity, and it's a far more approachable game than Fire Emblem, and there's a sequel in the works.  I can't see the Fire Emblem series getting any bigger than it is, given it's genre (Unless they do a full 180 overhaul, which I would hate).  It already has max investments. 

I don't see much more big annoucement they could've done, but doing about 2-4 niche characters would be an awesome idea, I.e Shulk, Matthew, Something from Rhythm heaven, that new Splatoon game they're working on, hell even Rayman Bayonetta, even though that's too adult and I know people will complain about that.