Breaking: Ukraine airliner 'crash'

[Mr Khan]

MoHasanie said:

mai said:

MoHasanie said:

I'm sort of agreeing with your opinion but you're leaving out the possibilty that Russia supplied the rebels with all that equipment. Afterall, the rebels did shoot down 2 cargo planes last week.

Well, for that Russia should have supplied Buks with a crew as well, and it doesn't explain motives (9 chances out of 10 the incident will be blamed in Russia publicly regardless the investigation). Nah, I'd trust Occam here, unless proven wrong.

Il-76 was shot when nearly landed if that's what you mean. First An-26 wasn't cargo, it was artillery observer plane that went down for that purpose a bit too low and was shot down. The most recent An-26 was cargo, but I'm not sure how it was shot down. 4km altitude is what rebels could possibly afford for now.

Yeah, the blame on Russia thing is why I think you're right. The media is hardly considering that anybody other than Russia or the rebels was responsible. That makes me think that USA was involved in this with Ukraine. 

It's not going to be a false flag operation. I really don't think Russia would be dumb enough to do this (Soviet Union learned before that gunning down passenger aircraft is bad news, KAL007 and all), but Ukraine's not going to do something like this deliberately, not when they have the Separatists on the ropes.

Two best explanations are Russian agents assisting the Donbas separatists in using the Muk, the Separatists getting really (un)lucky with firing the Muk, or the Ukrainians having a similar bout of bad luck (though why they would fire on a plane headed eastward...)