Breaking: Ukraine airliner 'crash'

[MoHasanie]

mai said:

MoHasanie said:

mai said:

MoHasanie said:

Cause the pro Russian separtists are most likely the ones who shot it down and where else would they get such an advanced piece of military technology? Also Russia is suspected by many experts. 

At 10km altitude? With what? A slingshot? And what are their motives?

We don't know anyone's motives. Its just a possibilty. Who knows though? Maybe it was Ukraine and USA that planned it in a way so that Russia would look bad. Who do you think did it? 

I've already said what I think, a tragedy as the result of Ukrainian army actively playing with dangerous toys without precautions (not for the first time btw, remember that Tu-154 from 2001) provided the plane indeed was shot down. No one else in close proximity could have done this, unless we're going into too much of a conspiracy stuff.

Blaiming rebels is a stretch. I've already said that the only SAM they have, that could have done this is Buk-M1 they've captured from Ukrainian army (there're documental evidence to that including their own claims and photos), but here're the problems:
- they are most likely non-operational (their own claims and they indeed never used it);
- if they operational, what rebels have are 1 or 2 missile launcheres, while a single operational division (зрдн) consists of 6 launchers, 1 command post, 3 reloading machines and 1 tracking and target designation radar, which feeds data to launchers, -- at the very least to successfuly fire a missile they should have at least one radar (this thing), which they don't
- they need trained crew, which they don't have

Blaiming Russia is a stretch because Boeing was in sight but out of reach for Russian air defence.

While blaming Ukrainian army is easy, here're Buks, plenty of them, seems operational (see 0:53), video from July 5th:

I'm sort of agreeing with your opinion but you're leaving out the possibilty that Russia supplied the rebels with all that equipment. Afterall, the rebels did shoot down 2 cargo planes last week. 

Having said that, I agree with you that it was not Russia or ther rebels that were responsible. 

I can't see the video unfortunately. Could you post the link?