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Tbone on 14 July 2014
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A203D said:
Experimental42 said:
This is just going to go in circles. All I get from this is that people who are new or less capable in the genre seem to like the dumbed down control scheme and difficulty of DmC. Saying DMC4 is slower because you "walk" while locked on is proof that you have no idea what's going on. The people who prefer DmC's combat over DMC just aren't as good at the genre, I get it.

The importance a player puts on lockon tells you all you need to know. Bayonetta is a great example. The higher tier you are the more important it becomes. You can play through the whole game and never use it, but as player skill and difficulties go up and prioritizing enemies becomes more and more important, you use lock on more.

"Saying DMC4 is slower because you "walk" while locked on is proof that you have no idea what's going on."

It is slower. That lack of speed reduces your manoverability, its clunky to switch to walking. Dante can't actually move properly when you hold the button lock (R1). He can't physically move in certain directions, he will strafe around one enemy, restricted to that enemy's radius. This was very clunky when dealing with multiple enemies. He also can't Evade enemies in more than two directions, unless the Trickester style was equiped.

Even then that dosen't solve Nero's problem nor does it solve how you are limited with your options because Trickster limits your options to that style. Its tedious to switch from one style to another just to be able to Evade an enemy properly. DmC allows the player to access all of Dante's combat options without the tedium of changing styles. Not to mention the greatly improved mobility of Dante during the air. All those Evasion options are also available in the air, where Capcom confirmed they were aiming for greatly fluidty and gameplay depth.

"The people who prefer DmC's combat over DMC just aren't as good at the genre, I get it."

Then prove it, if DmC is as easy as you claim, show me your PS3 trophy data and your name at the top of the PS3 leaderbaords, or maybe some video's showcasing the ease of what you say? If you claim to know what your talking about, why don't you prove it? While your at it I want to see if you've actually finished any of the previous DMC games, unless your claiming you can't give me your PS3 username for whatever reason? If yoru so capable a player as you claim let me see you DMC HD collection trophies?

"The importance a player puts on lockon tells you all you need to know."

DmC uses a fully functioning manual lock-on, the difference is you can't see the reticle. You don't need a recticle since you know where the lock-on is based on Dante's direction and the camera position.

Bayonetta is way better than DMC4, and its better than DmC in some respects. I never used button lock because all of Bayonetta's moves can be performed without button lock, and Bayonetta never slows down when you hold R1, nor is her movement ever slowed down by the button lock.

After completing all 4, not including Dmc2, DmC is easy. DMD and Hell and Hell is a joke.