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Cyrus on 14 July 2014
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Scisca said:
amak11 said:
Scisca said:

Dude, you should check who Monolith Soft belongs to and maybe then you'd realise they have no say whatsoever on this matter. All your "they can't" arguments are bs. If Nintendo wanted to do anything with the game, they'd do it, they can release another print any time they see fit and nothing or nobody on this planet can stop them.

Is e-shop even a bigger piece of garbage than I thought it was? It really takes that much effort to put a game on it, that it would steal resources from games in development!? Yikes!


Dude, stop being an ass. It would not natively work on the Wii U OS without doing a port. It would steal resources from more important things to do a port. You automatically think that "it's just a wii, and it has wii mode, that means wii games must work natively without any effort" The Wii U natively has no ability to play Wii games on it's own OS, nor will it ever. That's why there is Wii Mode. the Wii Shop, not the eShop (learn the fucking difference) is unable to support full retail Wii games. 

The eShop can, but Nintendo wont spend their time and money in to porting the game to the Wii U, from the Wii just to lower the cost that retailers have decided to jack up (not Nintendo) on Xenoblade....  

This is a question of porting, not wether the eShop can support these titles (the biggest title on Wii U being 21gb). You're just finding a reason to hate Nintendo now. 


I'm not an ass, you're talking bullshit and I'm calling you out on it. Think before you write stupid stuff in the future. "Nintendo just can't reprint games when they want", "They likely aren't allowed to produce more units", "Monolith Soft would have final say in whether they could reprint it. Nintendo only distributed and published it. The set agreement would have been for X retail copies. This would require a new agreement." <- it's all bs you pulled out of your ass and have no argument to support any of it. Nintendo can do whatever it wants with Xenoblade, they can release extra copies at any moment. The fact that they don't want to doesn't mean they can't. Deal with it and stop making up stuff.

Please explain to me why Xenoblade wouldn't work on WiiU? Why would anyone need a port? Who cares if the game works natively on WiiU OS or through Wii Mode? What difference does it make? Why even bring such a stupid argument? You buy the game, put it into a Wii U and play it, who cares why and how it works? There is no port needed, no extra resources required whatsoever, that's why Nintendo made the console backwards compatible. Also let's not forget that Wii U is so "hot" that even Xenoblade not working on it wouldn't be any kind of an argument, since it's working on a console that sold 100 mil. A Xenoblade remake would be a big new release though and I'd surely buy it, but it's not necessary for anyone to enjoy the game on Wii U. You're just making up pointless arguments to support your flawed thesis.

So eShop is even a bigger piece of crap than I though it was? Unbelievable! And no, I'm not going to learn the difference, I don't care. If Nintendo is a company from the stoneage, they miss out on my money and I couldn't care less. That's the power of being a consumer in a market where there is competition.

It's not about lowering the costs that retailers put. The price wouldn't be this high, if Nintendo released more copies, which is obvious. At this point nobody benefits from this situation apart from retailers. Nintendo doesn't earn a single penny, gamers either lose absurd money or miss out on one of the best games from the last generation (and only Nintendo is to blame for this). If they made a reprint with a $30 price they'd not only earn some money, but allow gamers to enjoy their game.

It's not a matter of porting. If you think that an old Nintendo game costing $80-100, while Sony/MS sell such games for $3-5 is "finding a reason to hate Nintendo", then it's just your opinion, but I do believe that is a very strong argument and so does my wallet. And not to "hate" but against Nintendo for sure. The only saving grace Nintendo has is they made the Wii so easy to softmod, that one can play the game for free without much hassle.

Well i agree on Scisca that Nintendo could reprint it if they wanted. At least i can't see for what reason they shouldn't be able to, it's their property, right? Monolith belongs to them them, so i guess they should hold all the rights. 

 

Nevertheless, calling the eshop "a piece of crap" because they don't offer Wii games is strange, because why should a shop sell games that do not work on the system? Yes, Wii games do not work inside the WiiU OS. The backwards compatibility too Wii games is created by the possibilty to boot the WiiU with the Wii OS. Inside the Wii OS you can then use all the online functions of the Wii, like the Wii shop channel. But the Wii shop does not provide retail games. 

So if Nintendo was going to digitally release Xenoblade Chronicles for WiiU, than they would either have to port the game for WiiU or put work on the Wii shop channel. So feel free to criticise the Wii shop channel for the lack of retail games, but that doesn't affect the WiiU's eshop, which supports full retail games as well as indies and VC. And it does so in an easy and userfriendly way if you ask me.