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celine said:
disolitude said:
@superchunk

"Unlike Nintendo, Sega can't live off of its own software."

Today this would be true...

However they could with the Genesis. In fact most of the gains Genesis made against Super nintendo was on the strength of Sega software. No one really supported it back in 1991-1992...

Sega's problem was that they always tried to reinvent the wheel and be the first one ont he scene. Turns out the round one worked just fine...


 You fail hard, go look at million seller list on this site and search for Sega's million seller on Sega console, then made the same search for Nintendo

Genesis had support from western developer in particolar from EA thanks to good business decision from SoA that made Genesis a viable platform in USA. 


This is because there is no data available for US game sales in that time frame. Sega sold nothing in Japan... Otherwise there would be lots more genesis games in the million seller list. Do you really think Eternal champions, Streets of rage 2, nhl 94 sold nothing...all those games sold atleast 2-3 million on the genny.

@superchunk

Genesis was targeted at nintendo first but failed. Only in 1992 did genesis take off in the states. Snes saw very little marketshare in the States until 1994 when donkey kong and super metroid came out.

I'm just saying that the likes of Shinobi 3, Golden axe and Streets of rage 2, sonic and phantasy star 2,3 and 4, Vectorman, ecco the dolphin and sega sports titles like the best baseball game (world series baseball) along with EA and midway's efforts...Sega could easily compete with the Snes and actually had the lead for the first 4 years of super nintendo's time frame(in US).

The only reason genesis lost to Snes in the united states is because Sega abandoned it in 1996 completely to focus on the saturn and stopped making it while Snes was made well in to 1998. In 1995 it was still the leading 16 bit console total sales wise...

As far as those 32x, sega cd addons...this was the sega's constant need to be technologically better than the competition and to try to reinvent the wheel. If they had just focused on making games like usual and not bothering with hardware and released the Saturn like you say(which was technically better than PS1), they may still be around as a hardware manufacturer.