| VanceIX said: Wow, did you seriously compare AMD's worst GPU in the R9 series to the PS4's GPU?
The PS4 gets absolutely destroyed by both the 280x and the 290x (the 280x could be had for $299 btw, very much affordable for many people). |
AMDs Volcanic islands GPUs come in 3 classes. low, mid and high. R5, R7 and R9 respectively. The R9 goes from 270, 270x...... all the way to the 290x. What sense does it make comparing the 270 which is the equivalent of what you have in a PS4 to a R 290x that costs $549 or the 280x that costs $299. That kinda comparison is only fair or makes sense if a PS4 costs you that much or if you can build a complet PC gaming rig with those GPUs for $400. If the point you are trying to make is that there are GPUs on the PC more powerful than that in a PS4 then no one will argue with you, as long as you are willing to accept that for that extra power you pay considerably more.
And common misconception is this thing that PC gamers say with regard to what they consider cheap GPUs. $299 for just a GPU is not something that is "very much affordable for many people". Just look at consoles sales, there aren't that many people willing to spend $400 for an all in one console cause its still too expensive and you somehow believe that there are a lot of people willing to spend $299 for just a GPU???? and there are still at least 5 more components they would need excluding an OS to build a gaming rig in addition to that? Say you buy the 280x for $299. How much do you think you would have spent aftet buying a cpu, pcu, hdd, cpu memory and controller (lets also assume that you pirate an OS and you dont use a case). You are still looking at at least a total of $600-$800 if that is the GPU you decide to go with. And this is wht is cheap to everyone?
And my point, is that the PS4 GPU isn't based on a two year old GPU as you were saying, and its not far weaker than what you have in PCs unless of course you want us to believe that everyone has a $500 GPU in their PC. For claims like that to make sense, then the cheapest PC GPU should at least be as powerful as an 290x.
The only way a console can hold a PC game back is in relation to memory size. Not CPU/GPU performace cause PCs can scale up or down in thoes aras... but when it comes to thngs like memory and data transfer I/O, there is nothing that can be done on that if the engine is designed for something that is lacking in those areas. And these current gen consoles are not lacking in those areas. Yes, making a game to run on a 512mb system would completely gimp its potential performance on a PC cause there are things in engine that the dev simply cannot even dream of doing. But these consoles are not memory constricted.
