| VanceIX said: 1. I should have just stopped reading at bold. The PS4 is equivalent to a 7870, a mid-tier GPU from almost two years ago. It also has AMD APU architecture, which is completely outpaced by Intel i5/i7. A 7970, a top-tier GPU from last generation, easily beats the PS4 in terms of graphical performance. If you used a 290x or 780 for comparison, you would get even more skewed results. If you don't know about PCs like the rest of us "Pc types", at least look up the facts before you post. 2. They don't have to completely get rid of those core assets for the high-end crowd. And have you seen Watch Dogs reccomended specs? Any PC with those specs should easily play with the high level of graphics that they decided to not include. Also, did you miss where it was found that the game actually ran better with the old graphics installed? That means that the game would have been better, period, with the old graphics, no matter what graphics settings you used. |
I enjoy having these kinda discussions with "PC types" such as yourself. Cause for some strange reason you feel that cause I have a preference in Consoles that I am clueless as to what goes into a PC. All this would be even funnier if you had any idea what i did for a living. Makes it all the nicer when I show just how clueless you are... well that or you are aware of all this and just biased, which kinda is even worse.
First though, lets talk about power and performance, Please... keep an open mind. Don't wanna have to repeat any/all of this again. In the below table you will see the PS4 GPU and the closest comparable Volcanic Islands GPU (the current generation R series AMD GPUs)
| PS4 | AMD R9 270 (released nov 2013) $179 | |
| PIXEL SHADERS | 1152 | 1280 (+10%) |
| VERTEX SHADERS | 72 | 80 (+10%) |
| TMU (texture mapping units) | 32 | 32 |
| CLOCK | 800Mhz | 900Mhz (+12%) |
| MEM. BANDWIDTH | 176 | 179 (+6%) |
| PERFORMANCE | 1843 GFlops |
2304 GFlops (+20%) |
The R9 series are using the exact same GCN architecture that the PS4 is using, that is why the vertex shaders and TMUs per GCN core all match. And while thereis not doubt that the closest AMD R series GPU to the PS4 is pushing better numbers across the board when directly compared to what you have in the PS4, that isn't taking into account that teh PS4 is a console and consoles are known to push way above their weight class for easons that I am going to assume you already know so I wont have to get into here. So how's that PS4 has a GPU from 2 years ago BS that you wee saying. And I didnt even add the compute capaable cores to this table, if I had done that you would find that the PS4s GPU has more compute capable cores than the R9 270. Yes you can always get more powerful GPUs for your PC, they will just cost more. And we are talking about just GPUs here and not the rest of your PC.
Your CPU argument is irrelevant, especially if you have a basic understanding of how games use a CPU. and how a CPU is used in a console compared to a PC. I will just give you a small hint, when running a game on consoles, 6 of the 8 available cpu cores are used exclusively to run the game. There is nothing on that system that is competing for CPU resoruces in a console. But its really good seeing how much of PCs you seem to know.
