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bigtakilla said:
cheshirescat said:
KLXVER said:
cheshirescat said:


Gee, I dunno, maybe because that was ten years ago.  Hard drives are cheap as hell now.


Not 10 years ago. They were still expensive like 2 years ago...


I suppose ssds becoming more popular recently may have helped drive down cost of the standard hdds, but even two years ago they could have found a way to make one with a 160 gb or so for dirt cheap.

In his defense, if I didn't have Pikmin 3, DKC: Tropical Freeze, and a few demos on my hd, mine would be pretty empty as well. The only problem I see was the Wind Waker deluxe bundle gave people a digital copy (as well as MK8 giving away a free digital game). If the memory is so small they should quit trying to push giving us full downloadable games so much, but as I siad, not really a big deal for me.

I always let the old 'I don't need another dvd/blu ray/cd player' slide, because it has some validity, at least for the individual (if I ever heard someone from nintendo make an argument like that I would have flipped my shit because it'd be disingenuous), and those compatibilities are just complementary features that don't actually enhance or impede the core function of the machine.  The hard drive, however, is an integral component to a console's design now.  What nintendo did with their tiny 32 gb flash drives was not just cheap, it has actually hurt the console itself.  It certainly contributes to some of the console's woes when it comes to third party relations.  All games require some hard drive space, even if just for a save file, but most major third party retail releases require an install, some bigger than what the wii u has to offer even if completely empty.  The difference in basic architecture alone is enough of a hurdle, but with the hard drive being an issue it either makes for even more work for third parties to make the game work, or them telling the consumers that if they want to play their game on wii u then they'll have to get an external hard drive.  That's not a good position to be in.