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ChudStudly on 12 July 2014
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Aielyn said:
COX said:
"Ah, I see, so basically it all comes down to "if it sells like Wii, it's a bad console", right? And Wii was all "teh cazualz", so if nothing is selling to "teh cazualz", it's not a problem, because who needs "teh cazualz", right? I see what your game is, now."

Of course the WII is not a good comparison because it has the most strange sales curve in the history of gaming. The Ps4 will probably not dot the same numbers that the Ps2 but I don't understand how you can judge the Ps4 now. You should just wait because this kind of console has better legs than the Wii. Ps4 should be compare to consoles like the Ps1 or Ps2.

And when I used the word "ridiculous"  it's not about your statements but because if we compare the leaders of every generation finally the WII has the lowest numbers (Since the SNES) despite of its amazing first years. So to use the numbers of the WII to say that the Ps4 is doing bad sales it's not very relevent because finally the PsOne was doing the same and at the end sold more consoles than the WII.  

I don't know what will be the situation in the next years but I am sure that is too soon to say that the Ps4 is not doing well. However, I am not saying that you are wrong just that it's too soon. 

Edit : And I never said that the Wii was a bad console just a bad exemple

I never asserted that the generation was going to be a weak one. I said sales now are anaemic, that PS4 sales right now aren't nearly as good as many people seem to think. It isn't a value judgment on the PS4, or its potential to sell, it's a comment on what is happening right now. If nothing changes, the generation will be weak...

And to be entirely blunt, I mostly blame third parties. But I have hope that at least one of the consoles will strengthen. I primarily expect PS4 to do so. I hope Wii U does, as it's the console I own, and I cannot at this time afford multiple consoles (plus I'm a big fan of Nintendo's franchises, so more success means more chance of seeing the "lesser" franchises).

But it IS selling well. Period. Dot. The end. It's outsold its predecessor like mad during the same timeframe. Same for the Xbox 360. It's outselling both during its first summer. What would be an acceptable sales level for you? 300k weekly? 400k? PS4's "anaemic" sales are an indicator of what time of the year it is, not a referendum on the state of the console. This isn't a bad thing, it's a historical trend. Anyone who thought those incredible sales would continue through the first summer drought doesn't understand the industry. And anyone who doesn't think they'll see a massive spike this fall is insane, same goes for X1.

Again: current sales are NOT anaemic. End of story.