Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
This actually belongs in the Nintendo section. Responders and ravers can rant all they want, they can attack my argument on the grounds of its formation or structure or whatever. But they can't address the heart of the issue. Nintendo can't compete directly against Sony and Microsoft any longer because its PS's Market (The homeconsole market anyway). And all 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th gen back me up. |
Nope. They don't.
Sony did dominate the 5th and 6th gen. I'm going to ignore the 7th, cause I don't feel like arguing about it, and the 8th because the Gen is like 8 months old (since Sony's arrival in it at least).
Actually, scratch that, I'll play along and pretend Nintendo didn't compete in the 7th gen as though selling more gaming consoles in the games industry is somehow something less than direct competition. I'll even pretend Sony winning the 8th generation is a foregone conclusion.
The problem is those are effects. You are arguing that you have thought of the cause.
Basically, it's the classic "this stone keeps tigers away argument". That's from a Simpsons episode. In the episode Lisa (mockingly) tells Homer a rock will keep tigers away. When Homer points out how dumb that is, Lisa points out that there are no tigers around. Of course, there are no tigers, but that doesn't mean that Lisa's proposed cause has anything to do with that.
So, we can all agree (well, I don't but let's pretend) that Nintendo didn't compete in the 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th generation. That doesn't mean that your explanation for why that is the case is right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Z0H8CHPIU
Can't take the effect, and make it the cause.
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
| JWeinCom said:
Or... maybe if you make an argument title it and develop it properly, and don't discount any criticism by saying "then create your own thread"? I mean, I'm sorry, I thought you put out thoughts that you were ready and able to defend. If that wasn't the case I apologize for challenging half baked ideas. |
You are criticing my thread on the basis of its structure. You feel that I give to much credit to the big 3 because of bias, etc, etc...That's fine you can disagree with that all you want. But your not addressing my point, so their is no need to defend anything.
Well, I thought that I was. Which I'll get to later. But I made several points directly regarding your argument that you didn't address.
So, go ahead and make a better thread. I mean its not my fault that you responded to the title, or didn't understand what this thread was trying to convey.
Ummmm... it's my fault that I thought a thread titled "Playstation created the industry" is about playstation created the industry. Nope nope. Your fault. You're claiming "But they can't address the heart of the issue." Ever think that maybe nobody is addressing the heart of the issue because they aren't clear what the issue is? So, that's your fault as well. I'm just saying, maybe it's not everybody is stupid and misinterpreted your argument. Maybe your argument was poorly written, unfocussed and unclear.
So, I'm not trying to be sarcastic at all but to provide useful feedback. When you write an essay, you need to start with a topic sentence or paragraph. In an argumentative essay, you introduce your topic, your identify your position, and then you lay out the points that support that position. So, when you make a topic sentence about Sony creating the industy, people naturally think that's what you're discussing, and that's why they're reacting to that. If Nintendo not being able to compete is your main point, then make that clear in the beginning, not in the last paragraph.
As far as I'm concerned, the focus is the home console industry, something that should be, obivious when it is the main subject matter. The topic is concerning the Wii U, the Xb1, and the PS4, and why they are the way they are currently.
And to properly address that you need to analyze other parts of the industry to see how they intersect and to examine why Nintendo's methods are working in some place and not working in others. You also have to address things like hardware specs, multimedia capabilities, media storage methods etc etc.
