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burninmylight said:
VanceIX said:

Kobe demanded a trade to get the management off their asses and to make the team better. If he really wanted out, he would have gotten out. MJ was a Wizard when he came back from baseball, at least he didn't originally leave the Bulls for the Wizards. Kareem leaving the Bucks had little to do with winning and more to do with leaving a city he didn't like.

And at least Kobe has stayed with the Lakers this entire time. There has been drama, sure, there almost always is with superstars. The important thing is that he's still there, and has been through the good and the ugly.

No, Kobe didn't get out because he was still under contract. If he was a UFA, he would have been gone. He didn't soften his stance until the team acquired Pau Gasol in his prime.

Jordan came back from baseball as a Bull, and his second retirement was as a Bull. And given the state of the Bulls at the time, I'm pretty sure they would have welcomed him back a third time.

Show me where Kareem said he didn't like the city of Milwaukee. He's always been classy with his public comments toward the city. Within the past couple of years, he's tried to get back in the organization as a head coach, in the front office and even part of an ownership group:

http://www.brewhoop.com/2014/3/18/5523728/kareem-abdul-jabbar-milwaukee-bucks-ownership-group-herb-kohl

I'm a huge Bucks fan, dude. I visit a Bucks blog daily and chat with people who have been fans much longer than myself. He left Milwaukee because he just flat out wanted to be in a bigger market in a more progressive city, and he knew he'd still be part of a championship squad. History and the media been graciously kind enough to forget the Milwaukee portion of his legacy, just like it usually is with its superstar darlings, and as it will be one day with LeBron.

Exactly. He left because he didn't want to live in a city that didn't fit his lifestyle.

And people use trade threats to force teams to get better. If Kobe was serious, the Lakers would have traded him instead of getting better. Lebron didn't even give the Heat that chance.



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