Xbox One consoles no longer double as dev kits (VG24/7 Article) - Refuted by Microsoft

[Shinobi-san]

Machiavellian said:

Shinobi-san said:

Machiavellian said:

Shinobi-san said:
Probably not a big deal...however another 180 for MS is more bad press. something they still haven't managed to fix entirely yet.

Really??  The only people who would care about this type of stuff are fanboys fueling their list to go to battle against the opposite fanboys.  When all said and done this means nothing to the average consumer and would not change the viability of the X1 as a product.

This is what people were saying about the decisions MS made back when the X1 first came out. But considering that almost every piece of gaming news gets much more publicity these days, especially on youtube, id say this will get added to a long list of MS 180's with regards to the X1 and further the bad image of the console and the company. All these 180 decisions might be small but they add up.

And like i said in my initial comment...probably not a big deal.

@Bolded:  The only people who care about MS 180s are fanboys on both sides of the fence.  Sony Fanboys use it as a negative, MS fanboys use it as a positive.  In the middle are the consumers who just care about how much a console cost and will it have the games I want to play.  Even today, only fanboys remember about 180s MS, Sony and even Nintendo has made during the previous generation.  These types of things only add up on the fanboy battlefield then anything else.

From what I have seen, if its a positive 180 your average consumer take it as such.  Fanboys on the other side of the fence try to spin it as a negative.  Negative 180s are only revelant if you are affected which in this case will be a very small group.

Are you trying to argue that the decisions MS has made has not had an impact on sales? And are you also suggesting that the X1 doesnt have a bad image?

Not quite sure what you are trying to say. I'm saying the decisions MS has made with the X1 has contributed significantly to it's relatively bad image. And its had a direct impact on sales. X1 and PS4 created massive buzz end of last year...some of the most watched youtube videos are about next gen consoles...if you think this is only fanboys then i cant agree with that.

It's obviously not a deciding factor when average people buy consoles...but the image of a console definitely contributes to it, as well as the publicity the console gets on the net.