Anti-Nintendo Fanboy Logic!!!

[Pristine20]

Aielyn said:

Pristine20 said:
Why do you guys always think Nintendo is persecuted? Every company gets criticism like Nintendo.

Every company gets criticism. Not like Nintendo, though.

Nintendo is predicted to be about to collapse pretty much every second day, despite having $5 billion in cash in hand. For comparison, Sony is praised as being incredibly stable by many despite having $12 billion in debt and $8 billion in cash in hand (a $4 billion deficit).

Nintendo is criticised for not having games that appeal to "hardcore gamers"... and then when they announce a game like Bayonetta 2 or Devil's Third, they're criticised for keeping these games from the hardcore gamers by having it on their system as exclusives.

Indeed, Nintendo is the company that many in the gaming media (if not the gaming industry) love to hate. If it isn't lambasting Nintendo for following a successful formula, it's lambasting Nintendo for deviating from the formula.

When a multiplatform title is confirmed for PS4, XBO, and PC, and not Wii U, it's blamed on Nintendo - not on install base or system power, but on Nintendo itself. Yet when a game is confirmed for, say, PS4 and PC, nobody says anything comparable about Microsoft. When a game is announced as a PS4 exclusive, people who want it on other platforms complain about the developers. When it's announced as a Wii U exclusive, they complain about Nintendo. Nintendo is criticised for having free online. They're criticised for delaying games that aren't satisfying their QA. They're criticised for ignoring third parties, and for accommodating third parties. They're criticised for keeping Iwata in charge following a couple of years of relatively minor losses.

They're criticised for "forcing" Retro to make another Donkey Kong, and then they're criticised for not forcing Retro to make Metroid when it turns out that Retro chose for themselves... even after Donkey Kong becomes one of the best-recieved games on the system. They're criticised for spending so much time talking about sales in their press events, and then they're criticised for focusing their entire E3 on games. They're criticised for experiments like Wii Music, and for making safe titles that are guaranteed hits. They're criticised for not making a FPS even as every other company does it and few make games like Nintendo's. They're criticised for not making games that make proper use of the Wiimote, and then are criticised for making games that use the Wiimote. They're criticised for third parties' failures to advertise their games for Nintendo systems. They're criticised for not making games with deep stories, and then they're criticised when they make those games.

Other companies get criticised. Nintendo gets criticised for anything and everything, including criticisms that contradict each other. And then, when a Nintendo fan dares to call someone out for inconsistent criticism, they're called a fanboy and told to stop being so defensive. Funny, Sony fans, Microsoft fans, Activision fans, etc don't get such attitudes thrown at them when they complain, even about legitimate criticisms, let alone inconsistent and nonsensical ones.

1. Criticism is criticism, I'm not sure that specifying the kind of criticism is relevant. No one wants it eitherway.

2. Most people know that Sony is worse off financially. Their financial statements are often posted on this very site.

3.  Nintendo was criticized for that mostly in the Wii generation.  It was fair criticism in the sense that the customerbase they were pursuing was too fickle and unpredictable. As for bayonetta and Devil's third: neither of the two are big games or going to be big games. I don't know what the fuss is about. Some may just be unhappy they cant play them on their preferred system but that's jealousy not criticism.

4. Were yoiu around for ps3 launch? Xbox one pre-launch? Because I'm fairly sure that M$ and Sony have faced more criticism at certain points as well. Instead, most of the WIi threads in it's prime were about how mouch money it printed.

5. There are way more multiplats skipping nintendo's system than Xbox one and ps4. This criticism is fair. Install base and system power are nintendo's fault. I don'tknow how you can deny it. I can't think of any ps4 exclusive that's not a sony investment so I'm not quite sure what comparisons you're making. As for nintendo's seal of quality, it really did exist so it's wasn't unfair criticism at the time. When have nintendo ever gone out of their way to accomodate third parties compared to other manufacturers? You keep mentioning ps4 but neglect to mention that Sony went as far as to consult 3rd parties when developing the system. On the other hand, nintendo just made the best system to play the games they envisioned not to accomodate (not that this is necessarily bad). When a company is performing poorly the CEO gets blamed. This is not unique to nintendo.

6. I have been actively visiting gaming sites for at least 11 years now and I've not heard most of the criticism in your second to last paragraph. Perhaps one thread by a random guy isn't significant? WHat I have heard though is criticism of fps saturation and praise for nintendo for making colorful games instead of brown and grey space marine shooters. Goes to show huh? How come you also never addressed the fact that nintendo definitely has more supporters on this site for example? Were you hoping for gaming to be an echo chamber where everyone agrees that nintendo can do no wrong? If not, what criticism have they gotten that you agree with?

Want to see contradictng criticism on other companies? M$ was criticized for too much focus on kinecttowards the end of the 360s life and for moving the same sentiments to the xbox1. Now that Kinect has been deemphasized, I've read commentary suggesting that the system doesn't differentiate itself from the ps4 now.