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SocialistSlayer on 01 July 2014
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Figgycal said:
-CraZed- said:
VanceIX said:
Scisca said:
Why the fuck would your employer be forced to buy you contraception!? My God! America, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Why are corporations treated as churches now?


So your religious freedoms stop at churches do they? Just because you run a business or a corporation (which does not even necessarily mean you are a big powerful evil greedy entity, ma and pop operations regularly incorporate to protect their personal assets through corporate holdings) doesn't mean you should be forced to provide for those who work for you with contraceptives or anything else for that matter other than a mutally agreed on wage and providing as safe a work environment as possible.

Corporations are made up of people just like any other organization. Why should they be treated any differently in regards to their Constitutional rights? I know, I know because money right? Yeah Gates, Buffet, Soros they have more money each than a majority of the registered corporate entities of this country and they spend tons of money on political causes.

No corporations aren't a person. They are however, people.

And the religious beliefs of its employees that want their contraceptives covered by their insurance... don't matter? This is another case of conservatives favoring fundamentalist Christian ideology and corporations over the interest of individuals.

Why would an "individuals" interest be any more important than a group of individuals, a corporation?  They weren't forced to give out contraceptives by hand to each employee -- it was included as part of their insurance coverage if they chose to use it, because get this: preventing women from getting pregnant is cheaper than paying for abortions and pregnancies.

They are still covering 16/20 of the contraceptives. They just didn't want to pay for abortifacients. 

And the first ammendment is not talking just about Christianity, so the fact that this was a narrow ruling only involving contraceptives is mind boggling. What about people of other faiths who have other religious objections. An orthodox Jew refusing to cover insulin for a diabetic employee because it comes from pigs, blood transfusions, vaccinations and other medical activities that certain faiths don't agree with.

Although ido believe businesses shouldn't be forcedtoo payfor that stuff. The only way that would be a valid comparison is if pregnancy was a disease.

  don't matter either huh? It shouldn't matter right, because the religious rights of the emplyees shouldn't be trumped by the religious rights of their bosses. Except for Christian beliefs apparently -- they deserve special treatment.

Believe it or not there are actually more than just Christians that are morally apposed to murdering babies. 

Because of this ruling, a corporation's religious views in fact, do trump the religious views of its employees.

So employees views should trump employer?

The only thing this ruling does is get the employer out of the employees personal business. 

This decision is literally only protecting the interest of Christian business owners who look down on contraceptives and is a blatant betrayal of the first ammendment. We will see other faiths try to pull the same act in the future.

And this ruling also sets precedence that not only are corporations people, but they also now have religious beliefs

No that was the citizens United case. And even then that's not true. That case rules they are groups of people. And of course they have constitutional right s if they didn't newspapers wouldn't be able to print their opinions. TV anchors couldn't report what the wanted. Unions couldn't donate money. Etc etc.

and can exempt themselves from laws they have a religious objection to. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

You must be. How else could you explain your egregious counter factual claims.