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BillyBong said:
sales2099 said:

Look compared to PS3, 360 didn't get much support, but 3rd parties did most of the heavy lifting and will continue to do so. Most gamers play multiplats over exclusives anyway, its a sheer numbers game. We got our Halo, Forza, and Gears (yaya I know), and a ton of XBLA games that weren't on PS3. Just saying it wasn't barren, and I would gladly take Halo 4 or Gears 3 over most of what PS3 offered, it really is personal preference in the end.

Gen 5 remasters and cross gen releases in a 9th year is unprecendented, whether you are a PS console or not. That's the bottom line, nevermind 10 and going forward, where it is now is nothing short of amazing. Nobody, certainly not you, woudl have predicted this in 2005. I concede, PS4 will win, PS3 is still going strong, but just don't have this kick-when-down mentality....at least try to do your homework on what the competition does/did. I mean REALLY did and not the bandwagon stereotypes.

And stop comparing 360 to the OG Xbox. 4 years on the market compared to 9 and counting......like cmon.

why shouldn't you care about the OG, the 360, or the x1.  That's the xbox division and their legacy.. how they treat their gamers says alot about MS and Xbox.

what's the incentive from MS to keep playing on their consoles if they are only getting 3rd party that every other system is getting?  You don't quit on your system when it was so successful/still selling successfully.. or did they assume they already had gen7 in the bag and moved on? Unlike the PS where they were basically supporting the ps2, ps3, psp, and newly released vita, they continued to push games for all those systems as best as they could.  xbox only had the 360 and x1.. and they basically moved on form the 360 when it looked like gen8 was around the corner.  2014 looks like an okay year for the 360 now, but that might be all she wrote with 360.. i hope not, really, because that would suck for gamers who are still very much attached to their 360.

and I don't care much for console wars.. but I do care what my system brings to me.  And I do take it offensive when others assume sales matter more than the experience itself.  i do care that Sony tries to give me as much variety as possible because I am not one of those dudebro FPS players.  I care that the system I have at least is still supported with exclusives (that's why we buy the systems of our choice, right?).. and I most definitely care that I'm not just an afterthought as soon as the next big thing comes around.  Guess thats where my line is drawn.


Excellent post, and well said!  I agree with you 100%, it's all about what the company making the console brings to the table.  I had both the 360 and the PS3 last generation...but only my PS3 and PS4 are getting use right now.  I still get excellent games for my PS3 coming (including, but not limited to the free PS+ games)...and I am sure Sony and 3rd parties will continue developing for the PS3 for the next few years.

As to the "console wars" and sales numbers.  The ONLY reason I care about it at all is because with Sony clearly ahead, it gets more and more expensive for MS to "buy" exclusive titles from developers.  This generation is marked by a distinct LACK of platform exclusives with over 90% of the games being multiplatform!  Sure, each camp has their handful of true exclusives, but none of those (on either side) are enough to sway the average consumer one way or another.  Instead, each platform has to compete on their own strengths and weaknesses...and hence the domination of Sony this gen.

Personally, I only get "worked up" in these discussions because Microsoft (and a lot of their fans) want to argue that their inferior console isn't inferior and want to "spin" things to make it sound like their platform is better.  I have a big problem with that!  If you have a product, and it's a stinker right out of the gate, you should admit it and go back to the drawing board.  At the very least, they should admit the lower performance, say they are focusing on the games and gameplay over graphics and move on.  They should also admit that Kinect doesn't work and kill it off completely on the Xbox (let it live on Windows, where people who know how to write software properly have come up with some VERY interesting uses for it!)  MS has NEVER done this, instead choosing to market their inferior products as the superior solution...see also Zune, Windows 8, Windows Phone, Surface...THAT is what gets me heated...not that they have a weaker console, but that they insist on marketing it to the public as "better".