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naruball on 25 June 2014
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TheLastStarFighter said:
Intrinsic said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
I hate paid online. Not because I can't afford it, but because I don't want to pay for nothing. It was always free. MS snuck it in there and then Sony. It's so stupid how consumers accept it, but wouldn't accept an $800 PS4 or XBOne.

Pls thats not even the same thing. Remotely. Paying online for the most part is optional, and there are diffrent PS+ tiers and prices. Don't know how that has anything to do with paying for an $800 console. what are you even talking about? Be rest assured, if they somehow tied the cost of a console to the online service and could go on to sell you a $1000 worth of hardware with a $200 down payment and then a monthly subscription people will probably buy into it.

Completely different thing from this though.

Yes, 4 X $5 is way different than $20.  Online is optional only if you don't want to play games online, which is a main feature of most games.  COD has a single player and online multiplayer.  It's part of the game.  It's not an "option".  I shouldn't have to pay extra to unlock it.

Sony charged $600 for PS3 with free online = outrage.  Sony charged $400 + $50 a year for online ($700 for a 6 year cycle)= hooray! it's cheap!

Consumers are easily manipulated. It's unfortunate.

Your comparison seems to have left out some very interesting fact:

1. There are better deals online for a year subscription. Check e-bay or several other online stores (I usually use cdkeys.com).

2. Who says someone needs a one year subsription every year? Some people might not play video games for three months and choose not to renew their subscription. Who says everyone will game on a ps4 for 6 years? So your math of $50 x 6 years is definitely wrong for many people.

3. Around Christmas there are many deals for cheaper psplus on the pstore.

4. There's a massive difference between a $600 ps3 and a $400 + psplus ps4.

    a. Inflation (2007 vs 2013)

    b. It gives the consumer options. If you don't play online, you can still get a ps4 for $400, while the ps3 you had no other option (apart from a $500 ps3 which was discontinued if I'm not mistaken).

    c. The "$400 + psplus" ps4 gives you around 72 games a year. Some for vita, some for ps3, some games that you don't wanna play to begin with, but for some people it is incredible value. Just because you see no value in it yourself, it doesn't mean that you can talk about the average consumer being "manipulated".

If you factor all these things (and maybe some more that I have forgotten), your whole $600 ps3 in 2007 = or > than $400 + psplus ps4 in 2013 doesn't hold much water, now does it?