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Tom3k said:
JazzB1987 said:

Guess what make games have player hosted servers as on PC and you would not have server costs at all.

Microsoft and Sony should let people play for free with their friends on servers they can host on their own and should keep the fee for people that care about online tournaments or leaderboard bullshit etc.

What on earth are you talking about? Players hosting servers? You'd actually want to play on a server hosted by another player? You wouldn't feel like the host had an advantage over you? I've been serious PC gamer my whole life, and the last time I've played something hosted by another player was probably Rainbow 6 and Age of Empires over Zone when that existed.

JazzB1987 said:

There is zero advantage and zero plausible reason for people to be forced to pay a fee to play with their friends. I know my friends dont cheat and If I want a 100% guaranteed cheat free game session I could still play on official servers and then pay a fee. Or play on community servers that also run anticheat software like on PC (this is also free!)

When I play with my friends we usually rent our own server. And that's what you refer as a community server... If you think that this servers just pop out of sky for free, than why don't you pop one out? Last time I've checked 70 player server for BF4 is around 90$/month, so that's ~920$/year with 15% discount. So from my perspective 50$ a year on PS4 or One to play with your friends is not such a bad deal. 

1) first of all if I play a coop game WITH a friend who would care about the host having an advantage? Also never heard of dedicated servers? I am playing cood games or strategy games or whatever all the time via lan and thats completely enough.

2)Again if people like you care about "neutral" servers there is tons of community servers that get paid by someone as you said right but how many players use those servers for free? Alot.
If you have 70 people your $920 a year turns into ~$13. Its up to you whether 13 is a bigger number or a smaller one compared to 50. 
Also 70 people paying for the server still allows for additional 100+ to play for free because not everyone needs to pay obviously not everyone plays at the same time! (how many people use a TeamSpeak server and how many people and friends of friends of friendsa ctually pay for that?)

And if you would make everyone pay it would just be $5.4 per person. 170 people would have to pay a total of $8500 on consoles to play online the $920 is obviously less :)    XBLG and PS+ still are a joke.

  And there is a ton of people hosting their own dedicated servers too that dont demand a fee or whatever they just do it for the community why do you think software/modes for dedicated servers exist? I was running a Phantasy Star Online Ep1+2 GC server for years for free.