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mornelithe said:

Then don't make highly generalized statements about a group of people you can't possibly know, or have any actual numbers on their purchasing practices (since no one else does).  It's really easy to have a conversation about PC Piracy, Console Piracy, the difficult of dealing with all the various GPU options in an engine on PC etc... without asserting unsubstantiated assumptions about millions of people.  You only know, what the industry parrots have said.  Funny how none of them actually give digital numbers, isn't it?  I mean, they get all the payment from every digital delivery service out there, so you know they have them.  Why would they keep that secret?  Hmm, fishy, no?

 

Take a second to think about this, because it's really very simple.  You only know what the devs/pubs tell you, yet they don't give you hard numbers for digital sales with every game launched, should be enough to tell you there's more to this than just PC Piracy.  And by the way, I'm keeping this civil, so you don't have to worry about me going all crazy.  It's just very insulting from my perspective, to be casually thrown into a category of a criminal, when I've spent as much money on console and PC games as I have.  Try to keep that in mind the next time you want to generalize an entire segment of the gaming population.

No one called you a criminal, and sorry if you think that i was generalizing or talking about you, but what I said is majority/most PC gamers. I am basing my numbers not outta stuff that I am pulling outta my ass but from every torrent site I know of. And yu can chose to ignore that on these torrent sites PC game version torrents outnumber console version torrents by nearly 10:1. But that is a fact. Do you know that Dead space on the PC was pirated more times on the PC than it actually sold on all platforms? The devs actually announced that. So this isn't a small insignificant problem that should just go away.

And you know what you are saying about only knowing what the devs are saying? That goes both ways, but we can at least say this much, if an IP has great sales, someone somewhere always seems to talk about it. When you don't hear someone trumpeting sales numbers.... then you know wsomething is wrong somewhere.

And again, I did not say this relates to every single PC gamer out there. Simple logic would tell you that theer will always be exceptions. It doesn't change that the majority of piracy of any sort though, is done by PC gamers. You may call that generalization, but I honestly don't know how else to say it. I actually find it strange that you have chosen to take this as a personal attack on yourself. Can you point out where i said every PC gamer is a pirate? I said majority/most pc gamers pirate their games. I said (or insinuated not sure anymore) that PC gamers do more pirating than buying. I further went on to say that maybe your friends and yourself were the exception. If I outright generalized then I am sorry cause i don't think thats what i did, But I still stand by what I said initially, a mojority of the PC gaming space do more pirating than they actually buy games. And in truth you can't blame them, its too damn easy. Like if I play on PC, and I want to play dark souls 2, in 2 mins I can have it downloading to my PC and be done in 4hrs and I would be playing it. Thats the harsh reality about PC gaming.