Intrinsic said: Look, I sincerely hate getting into pointless highly opinionated arguments simply cause trying to shift a persons opinion is like trying to replace a persons reality with your own. I will put it this way though, look at the sales of games. Console games sell on average 3-10 times more than their PC counterparts. And Piracy, is higher on PC. These are facts. Just look at a game like the recently released Thief for instance. The 360 version of the game has a torrent with 130 seeds and fewer leechers. Its the 5 highest seeded torrent of the game. The top 4 positions go to the PC version, and number 1 has over 1200 seeds. This is just using one game for as an example. Try it, go to your preferred torrent site, type in the name of any game released in the last 2/3 years as a multiplatform title. You will ALWAYS, find that the PC versions of those games are the most pirated. ALWAYS. Those are just the numbers I am going by, I don't try or care to act like i know whats in the minds of gamers, but I know for a fcat that a lot of PC gamers are pretentious people. If you aren't one of them then it doesn't apply to you. PC gamers pirate more than they actually buy. And their sense of entitlement is soooooo out of this world that they come up with an excuse for every stupid selfish thing they do. You and your friends may be the exception, but just have thins in mind, if PC gamers didn't pirate as much as they do, most of the PC centric developers wouldn't need to start looking at consoles as an alternative revenue stream. Look just try it, its very telling when every torrent site you go to, if you look at the top 10-20 torrents for any multplatform game you can think of, The PC version ALWAYS comes in the highest. Its even sadder when you look at PC exlusive games too. |
Then don't make highly generalized statements about a group of people you can't possibly know, or have any actual numbers on their purchasing practices (since no one else does). It's really easy to have a conversation about PC Piracy, Console Piracy, the difficult of dealing with all the various GPU options in an engine on PC etc... without asserting unsubstantiated assumptions about millions of people. You only know, what the industry parrots have said. Funny how none of them actually give digital numbers, isn't it? I mean, they get all the payment from every digital delivery service out there, so you know they have them. Why would they keep that secret? Hmm, fishy, no?
You have no idea, of what numbers are moved on PC. None. Because retailers downsized or completely removed their PC sections, years ago. So the vast, vast majority of PC purchasing is digital. Steam doesn't give out numbers. So, not sure exactly where you're pulling any of these 'facts' from, except thin air. is it that hard to believe that the industry wants to funnel everyone into the closed environment where they can shovel useless DLC after useless DLC in your face? Charge for multi-player, force you to use unsupervised servers, and use sub-par communications applications?
Don't get me wrong, I have a PS3 (and will get a PS4), because I see extreme value in the exclusive software that appears on Sony platforms (got a launch 60g for Gran Turismo, and Gran Turismo only. I didn't care how long it took to make, just that I knew I'd need a PS3 to play it). However, as far as me and my friends are concerned, how do you know that we're just the exception? You can't. You don't know the PC numbers, because they won't give them out. If piracy were so very bad, you think they'd bat an eye to bash the platform more than they already have, by announcing how very little it sold with every game released on PC? I don't.
Take a second to think about this, because it's really very simple. You only know what the devs/pubs tell you, yet they don't give you hard numbers for digital sales with every game launched, should be enough to tell you there's more to this than just PC Piracy. And by the way, I'm keeping this civil, so you don't have to worry about me going all crazy. It's just very insulting from my perspective, to be casually thrown into a category of a criminal, when I've spent as much money on console and PC games as I have. Try to keep that in mind the next time you want to generalize an entire segment of the gaming population.