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Leadified said:
Shinobi-san said:
Leadified said:
Shinobi-san said:

You said 1080p @ 60FPS has been standard on your average PC for years now? Where did you get that from?

What games are you talking about?

At what settings are these games running at?

And what, in your opinion, is a standard PC spec?

To run the latest games at medium - high graphics settings (this should include a decent level of anisotropic filtering) at 1080p and maintain 60FPS is NOT what an average PC has been doing for years. That is a complete lie, considering that the average PC most likely only has integrated graphics.

I can tell that this argument is going to go nowhere fast, so I'm not going to bother. Have a nice day.

Good. Atleast you wont dispute that what you said was incorrect.


If that's what to you want to believe, that's fine with me. But here's a newsflash if you're going to try to call me out on "complete lies" and counter with your own baseless arguments and leading questions. And also judging how quick you are to call victory then I really have no desire to debate with you.


You are the one who made the claim.The questions i have been asking was to get some context as to what you mean.

"1080p @ 60FPS has been standard on your average PC for years now"

Otherwise you have no proof to back up your claim. Doing a quick check on steam stats..which is really the only thing we have to go on and its not completely accurate..you will see that the average/standard gamer's PC is using onboard integrated graphics. How on earth do you achieve 1080p @ 60FPS for the majority of games with that hardware? I'm sorry but the reason why i already conclude im the victor on this topic is because its already something thats more or less known. Its not like we breaking new ground with this topic.

Then you go to take into consideration that most pc gamers are only playing MMO's, MOBA's and other free to play games...a large majority of which simply want to play the game at playable levels. Those type of gamers are not initially investing in decent gaming hardware to play games like Crysis 3, Metro etc.

Maybe if you had answered the questions i asked i could get a proper understanding as to what you meant...maybe your definition of a standard pc is different from mine or something like that, maybe you only taking into consideration certain games etc. You havent answered any of my questions and you havent provided any proof either. I'm not sure what i did wrong here that you no longer wish to debate.



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