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S.T.A.G.E. said:
 

There are plenty of mature games that deal with mature subjects, but they are arguing themselves into a wall when they are complaining about a rating. Based on what this topic is about, Nintendo is, was and always will be thought of as a toy compared to the competition and I doubt they really care. It is sad that an adult over thirty would get ridiculed for playing Nintendo since Nintendo is supposed to be the "fun for everyone" brand.


They never complained about rating. They were both saying the violence, killing (and other M-rated content)  present in those games are the reason people think they're mature and you seemingly disagreed with them even though you kept saying things like, " killing doesn't make games mature, graphic violence makes games mature." Which doesn't make any sense and it's no wonder Wright thought you were going in circles and bowed out of the thread.

Anyways, the only reason I jumped in was to refute your assessment that Nintendo doesn't do mature and I already disproved that so need for me to continue.