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theprof00 on 20 June 2014
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CDiablo said:
theprof00 said:
 

I think the best I can hope for out of this discussion is, "while you havea  point with x, and believe more firmly that y was what was actually happening. I see your argument, but I don't think it's entirely accurate."

....so I'm not going to keep arguing. I'll just wait for the word to eventually come out itself, and then I'll get back to you. I know I'm right, I don't need to convince you.

So is the story of the internet for people who think they are right without any proof.

I truly hope the full story will come out, there was a lot of bold, odd and stupid movements by MS and I wonder how far they planned on taking the idea. Since MS moved on from Mackitric(or whatever the idiot was there for the launch who abandoned ship a few months in), I wonder if the story will be swept under the rug for a long, long, long time(Forever?). Where are all the disgruntled MS employees? Either way good chat, good sir!

I have proof, I just don't have time to post all the links. I can promise you that nothing I've said is false. If you'd like to know what Gamestop thought of xb1, just ask benvtrigger. He's made comments about the pre-180 xbox1.

I apologize if I've been curt or arrogant at all, it's just that I've been doing this for years and I know that even if I spend an hour getting all the links together, it won't really matter. Sources will be questioned, intent will be muddled, semantics will be argued, and it will just be a huge waste of both our time. I feel that this will definitely come to light one day as the xbox team shoulders the blame onto mattrick. They'll explain everything he tried to do, and how splintered and fractured it made their strategy....and then they'll spin it into how their new strategy is proven and is backed by everyone and how much consumers embrace it.

The other half of the strategy that they don't explain will reappear when they try and roll out the digital control like they keep talking about returning to (according to yusef medhi). That part they won't downplay, because they still want that control.

I imagine it will be something like "the original vision is wrong in x,y, and z different ways. Since then, we've taken measures to fix the issues. We no longer support x, have kept half of y, and have reimagined z."

The new system will allow trading over ebay and whatever, but you'll have to buy a code to "activate it"..an online pass or whatever. They'll abandon the azure in gamestop thing, but they will only charge gamestop like 5$ for an online pass instead of 15$. Developers will get a cut, but it will require contracts to get games and dlc early or exclusively. Then they'll roll out an all new family share. Allowing friend to play your games but with some kind of timer.

It's not that the features were bad, it's just that they were too single-minded. Had they considered their partners and consumers, they could've done really well.