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cwbys21 said:
selnor said:
ookaze said:
selnor said:
It's either just me or everyone has missed the point. He doesnt say console gaming will die. He is saying if there is another generation it needs to change. And I agree.

I disagree with him.

Now why do you agree with him? This I don't understand. What's the problem exactly?

Strangely enough, I thought the PC gaming market was the one shrinking compared to the console gaming market.

It's not just what he says but also whats happening in the tech world. His statement is entirely true about Intel and AMD. When they release those chips in 2009, PC gaming will have in power terms double the potential of PS3 and 360. Also in 2010 they are looking to release HD movies on kiosks in shops which you download to a flash or SD card(Or whatever the one Toshiba is working on.) Now most people have proven that they dont mind not having a disc with music(as downloads outsells shop cd's now). This will be the same for films. I also believe Toshiba is working on TV's where you put those cards strait in and watch the HD download without the need for external player. I certainly thinkthis is why MS hasnt botherd with a BLU RAY player and am certain that nex gen games with microsoft wont be on disc. To much is changing. Downloads are cheaper to produce and cheaper forthe consumer. And with not needing to have the internet at home makes this an easier shift than a new medium. I said all along I wouldnt get HDDVD or BLU RAY because there were changes close.

 


This makes no sense. PCs have always been more powerful than consoles because they are upgraded more often instead of every 5-6 years. Also, downloads of music are not the same as downloads of movies. People can carry thousands of songs on an iPod but you cant carry dozens, let alone hundreds or thousands of movies on a laptop or flash card. And I would like to see where people buy more music online than in a store because you can't count pirated music as there is no definative way to count it. Lots of p2p services, lots of different torrents from different websites etc. Also, Microsoft not wanting games on discs? How many terabytes of hard drive space will be needed then in the xbox720? Developers are already filling up the 50gb discs the PS3 has, there is no reason why they wouldn't make games even larger if you give them unlimited space that people are just going to download everything. And what happens when something like last fall comes about again, when it seemed like all the good games of the year landed in the space of 2 months. Eveyone is going to download all those games and wait forever to play all those games because their are spliting their limited bandwidth between 5, 6, 7 games? Also, if there is a game you don't like, you can't resell a game that you downloaded, which is big business. If people don't have that option they would be less willing to take a chance on a game. So developers would be making more money per game sold but they would be losing sales because not everyone has 100megabit broadband internet and there is no way to sell off a game if you don't like it or even let a friend borrow it. That is a bit of a rant I know but people, especially the hardcore, will buy lots of games over the life cycle of a system and to store all those game onto a hard drive and download when that fast enough broadband isn't cheaply available even in big cities, let alone the rest of the world where basic broadband is barely available if at all makes no sense to me. Microsoft would might as well hand the next generation over to Nintendo or Sony on a silver platter. Not to mention they lose money on each system sold now and to have a boost in power and a huge hard drive and they are going to have to add in wifi into their next system (Nintendo has wifi and is making a profit on the console, no reason why Microsoft shouldn't have had wifi built in).

You dont put them on a hard drive, it goes on a flash or SD. (I cant remember what it is Toshiba are making). Then that inserts to Xbox and you play. Also I dont know anyone of my friends that buys films anymore. They all pay 14.99 a month and can download as many HD films as they want. (Or SD). Beacause you pay to download, even if you have 2 mb download speed these sites give you full bandwidth(unlike P2P torrents). I'll find some articles(which isnt hard, as it's currently regarded the near future). Also as I mentioned the idea is for Kiosks, so people dont even need the net.