The one thing the PS3 and the Dreamcast have in common!

[MikeB]

@ WoW

Supply proof that all console games are optimized more than PC games. Unless you can do that, I call BS on your statement.

I didn't claim all games, I just stated current PCs will never be pushed as much as consoles will be (and have been) pushed. Yes, there will be console games which will be optimised far more for the used specific hardware setup and I am not talking about Pacman. Going back in history this is nothing surprising. C64 and Amiga 500 games were much better optimised (and thus the hardware far more efficiently pushed) as well.

it is surpassed by the real Cell that isn't partially handicapped due to cost limitations.

I stated specifically x86 Windows PC. The Cell provides a PPC /PPC-like architecture.

You asked for a PC BluRay drive at a "console price point" and I pointed out one with a price of half that of the Wii.

I stated PC with default Blu-Ray drive at console pricing.

The reason for the PS2's success, not the success itself, is unrelated to all your talk of the PS3

Many of the reasons why the PS2 is a success already apply or will apply to the PS3 as well. The points I mentioned earlier (bigger software library, better value for money, etc).