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Ramadear said:


Very misleading stuff you have said here. Especially saying that PS4/X1 Gpus are beefy. This alone is one of the most misinformed statements I've seen anyone say so far. Both gpus are extremely weak, the ps4 uses a modified Radeon 7870 gpu. That definitely isn't beefy. With respect to DX, AMD has Mantle. M$ has DX12 both which are the same as low level apis found in consoles. 

Your perception of what you feel looks good is limited in spectrum. Due to the fact that what makes a game good graphically is quite broad. You can't expect a mmorpg to look like Crysis 3 since the game is generally pushing around many many more npcs than what you will find in a fps. Gw2 is praised for its graphics initially but technically speaking the character models aren't even better than U2. But the standards and requirements are different since the genre is different. 

 

Get more info before discussing graphics. They are pretty decent GPUs. You are affirming that they are weak based only on superficial data like TFlops count, while most GPUs with much higher raw performance simply use two GPUs togheter that can't deliver all that performance because of parallel computing issues. Mantle? We don't know nothing about it yet, it doesn't have any concrete results to show. Honestly, I don't believe on it. If someone would make an API to beat DX, it would be NVidia, since they have much more software expertise (let's face it, AMD graphics driver are way worse than NVidia and NVidia creates a lot of new SDKs and techs while AMD basically doesn't push any new tech and simply play catch up and price games). DX12 is dedicated only to reduce the draw call overhead basically, so it isn't in the same level as console low level APIs, they are just fixing a bad implementation they were using before. You are completely misinformed about what a graphics API is or simply are believing in the PR MS did about DX12.

Of course, graphics are related to the genre. But Crysis 3 pushes graphics simply being a corridor shooter and that makes things pretty easy.