| kowenicki said: Im not all over the place. For this thread read consoles as both home AND handhelds. Home and handhelds. By that metric no one can argue with you. And if all you are saying is that consoles (home and handhelds) will never put up numbers as big as before then not only is that redundant its obvious. Obviously things will be different now cause the handheld sector has never faced the kinda competition its facing today. However, nothing about that says that "home" consoles are going to suffer as a result. Combined, home consoles will do better than they have done in the past, barring the casual bump that the wii game consoles last generation.
My view, in summary: Consoles will sell significantly less from now on, because; - Dedicated handhelds are dying/dead Read above, basing your argument on this weird combination of handheld and home consoles is a flawed way to analyse things. But if thats what you want to do you are right. Wrongly right so to speak. - Home consoles have peaked and will never again match the last gens sales. How do you come to this conclusion, what in history, or even with recent trends leads you to make this assumption. You questioned my logic and asked me to verify how I came about my math, I have done that. Even then you choose to ignore what was pointed out there and still say this? This is beginning to feel like talking to a wall. And unfortunately something I am beginning to see increasingly with some memeber of this site. You can just ignore all reason or throw away facts simply cause you are trying to stand by your point, thats blind ignorance at best. How can you prove, what in the past or present leads you to believe after 7 months proper that this home console generation will not match last gen sales. If this is a 7yr generation, and by the thrid year PS4/XBO are sold at $200, and by the 5th year sold at $120... you really thik that will have no effect on overall hardware sales? You can't just continue to stand by certain views and conveniently cast a blind eye to all the other factors you are not considering, yet get worked up when people disagree with you. That is the only point I am making and the thread is ONLY about console sales (home and handheld). All the other factors and infpo you bring arent really anything to do with the thread. Yup, classic. Dismiss info that disputes your thesis. Well played sir. If other poeple want to bring in the whole industry and how it affects certain companies margins then thats fine but stop tring to relate that to the OP and OP2. And no one is really actually bringing the whole industry into it. Cause if we did then you would really look bad cause that wil mean taking everything into account. Home consoles, dedicated handheld consoles, mobile phones, tablets and PCs. But I agree, thats not what this thread is about. My comment on the industry as a whole is that gaming is bigger than ever and so it shall continue. At least something else we both agree on. From a company perspective, I wouldnt want to be a company that relies heavily on revenue from the sale of dedicated gaming hardware devices. And no. This is a very myopic way of looking at it. Profitable business is good business. If sony Makes a profit from selling every PSV, then its just profit made from selling hardware. If the make profit selling every PS4, its the same thing. When softaware sales brings them bilions of dollars in revenue, and their gaming division makes a profit, then that is good business too. What you are saying is like saying HTC that only makes phones is dead because they aren't making as much profit as samsung that makes phones and everything else. It just doesn't work that way bro. You can't say that you wont wanna be a company that relies heavily on sales of dedicated gaming hardware, then ignore that there are completely different types of dedicated hardware and that one model failing due to technological shifts doesn't spell doom for everything else. |
In addition to all that, I will just say it again. The only people in any kind of trouble here is Nintendo. Cause they are losing on both fronts. Handheld sales are declining as smartphone sales clime and not only do they not make phones, they don't publish games in that sector. And they are losing in the home console space mostly due to their flawed busines model that they have insited on sticking to even after its massive failure in the 6th gen. They lucked out with the wii, but somehow, shocking so I might add, they failed to see why and released something like the WiiU.
