Yakuzaice said:
2. They don't refuse to do it because they have done it, multiple times. There are also plenty of Tales games on non-Nintendo systems that don't come over, so it isn't some specific ire against Nintendo. 2.a 50k and 90k are a lot when we are talking about numbers this low. It also did 40k more in "rest of world", that doesn't sound like much, but it means Xillia tripled DotNW sales in those territories. Yes, Tales of the Abyss did well on 3DS (at least according to VGC numbers), but that was the most recent Tales game to come out on a Nintendo system. Those sales had no bearing on their decisions with Graces or the DS games. Now if Reve Unitia never comes out in the west, Abyss sales would be an argument there. Abyss PS2 never came out in Europe and VGC doesn't have any sales numbers outside of Japan. Abyss 3DS probably outsold it in the west, but we don't have the numbers to really know. 3. The title of that NinendoLife article is "series entry". Also the Destructoid article it is based off says "Baba, showing off the upcoming Tales of Xillia, said in passing that GameCube's Tales of Symphonia was the most successful Tales game in the West. Naturally, I asked why he felt that particular game resonated so well with western gamers" - Destructoid Also "I believe the success of Tales of Symphonia has multiple factors to it," Baba said, "the first being that it was the first Tales title that was rendered in 3D polygons, so we believe that was a huge component to its success." -Baba It is very clearly only referring to the original Symphonia. Even if he wasn't Destiny 2 didn't come out in the west, Xillia 2 hasn't come out in the west yet, Radiant Mythology sequels didn't come out in the west. Pretty much every other Tales game it would be put up against would only have one game, many of which didn't get full worldwide releases. "I've seen 5 Tales games released in the west not come on a single Nintendo platform." Did you phrase this incorrectly or is this a different argument? Are you saying that something like Xillia that was eventually released in the west should have come out on a Nintendo platform? If so then that would come back to sales in Japan. 3.a Being the founder and Editor in Chief of a site I have never heard of still qualifies as a random guy. If he was the founder of Namco and the video was actually specifically about Tales I might watch it despite its length, but that is not the case. 4. So your issue is that Zestiria and Xillia 2 are not coming out on Nintendo consoles? This comes back to your original response to me. You said we're talking about the west, but those games aren't on Nintendo consoles because of Japan. Baba said in that interview you linked that Japan is their main target for the Tales franchise. Considering how long it usually takes (1-2 years) to get these games out in the west, they clearly don't have a huge amount of resources dedicated to it. I don't know why you'd expect them to port it to a Nintendo system just for western sales. At that point you might as well just start porting it everywhere, Vesperia 360 sold better than Abyss and DotNW in the west, so why not port it there too? 4.a Graces came out on the PS3 because the Vesperia port sold incredibly well. Symphonia got ported because the PS3 is the highest priority for Tales games in Japan and they didn't have a new one ready for 2013 in Japan. What Nintendo system would you even expect them on? The Wii? Wii U, 3DS? 4.b Legendia and Abyss came out in the US, but not in Europe. Humorously enough the Gamecube was the first system to get a worldwide release of a Tales game as far as I can tell. I think it is pretty clear I have done research on this. I've discussed at length sales numbers and the various releases. If you need people to watch a half hour video to see your point, you might want to reconsider your argument. Or perhaps do a bit more research yourself. |
Your point is that Tales games rarely ever come to the west and that the fact that Nintendo systems were graced with 4; while Sony only received 4 and Microsoft only received 1 - I guess the point is that Tales games in general just don't get ported to western countries.
Alright then. Your points are valid. This doesn't say much about future Tales titles - but that's not to say those titles won't be released on Nintendo platforms. They very well could be, and my misguided opinions were just that. Misguided.
