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AlphaCielago said:
naruball said:
AlphaCielago said:

You seem to miss on the entire point. Who the fuck cares about reception. Nintendo games gets recieved well, but systems still sells shit. 

They have 1st party games, yes, but it's not like the biggest sellers are the 1st party games. My thoughts on PS is irrelevant. I can see how the PS is popular in the West and don't have a problem with it. You can't seriously think that most Japanese gamers will say "I can't wait until Uncharted releases", "Killzone is gonna kill it", etc.

The Last Guardian gets mostly mentioned here, I have no idea of what the Japanese thinks of it and it's irrelevant to the discussion if you don't have anything to support it.

"Who the fuck cares about reception" Apparently, you do: "Have you heard anyone say anything positive of 1st party games in Japan?"

This was your question and I answered it.

You can't seriously think that most Japanese gamers will say "I can't wait until Uncharted releases", "Killzone is gonna kill it"

Most Japanese gamers? Of course not. Never said that. My point is that first party games are not a joke. Even in terms of sales, they still find an audience; just not a large one. I'd still not call it a joke, because every little helps and the sales of several western games show that Japanese gamers don't only buy Japanese games.

By the 2nd bolded statement, I meant in terms of interest. There's no major interest, the Japanese wouldn't make it as a deal breaker. Maybe a small amount, but that doesn't change much. The only thing that has driven the last few Sony systems has been third parties, with GT being the only 1st party to have done something of attention.

The way I see it, we don't know. What we do know is that there is no major interest in them (as you said). What we don't actually know is just how important these titles are. For example, I bought a 3ds primarily for the exclusive naruto games it got and to a lessser extent for Pokemon x/y. The naruto games didn't sell well in the west at all. So it would appear that it was pokemon that pushed sales (I bought one when poekmon laucnhed), while it was both of them. Most people don't buy consoles for one game, but for their entire libraries and 1st party games can make the library look good while people end up not buying these games. I had similar conversations with people about to buy a console and they would list a great number of games, in most of which they had no actual interest. If you add up all the sales of first party games and look at the critics reviews, it is a possibility that they do help sales even indirectly. Not saying that that's the case, but that saying that first party games don't help at all may not be the case.