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OdinHades said:
sully1311 said:
Europe

PS4 76,845
X1: 12,270

6:1 ratio. X1 needs price drop + countries + gobsmacking e3 fast.


Europe is a lost cause for Microsoft. Seriously, you can get the Titanfall bundle for 396 € (cheapest I have seen so far) and it's still not selling at all. The 399 € kinectless Xbox will do close to nothing around here. And I'm also pretty sure the price will go down to 350 € quite fast, because it will continue to not sell. Meanwhile, the PS4 is STILL sold out most of the time, even if you can only get the 529 € Killzone Bundle. 

Kind of anecdotal evidence, but the numbers do prove my point somewhat. I think Microsoft should just concentrate on the US. Fighting for europe is about as good as fighting for japan.

Yep, I too have seen the kinect version cheaper than what the kinect less version will be. As I said before it would do v.good in the US but Europe will keep the PS4 far ahead regardless.