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swbf2lord on 04 June 2014
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generic-user-1 said:
Landguy said:
swbf2lord said:
generic-user-1 said:
AnthonyW86 said:
Nah iPad's can never rival a new playstation/xbox in power. Especially now with systems like the PS4 already being profitable they can release new systems more frequently.

The Wii-U as a console with tablet controller however is doomed, if it wasn't already besides some strong first party titles. Wouldn't suprise me if the next iPad rivals the WIi-U in power.


ipads sure cant, but windows tabs will beat the xbone soon, the cpu is allready stronger(same goes for ps4, the i5 is just a beast) and the gpu will get there soon with intel putting shitloads of mney behind that.

 

nintendo is the only safe because of the firstparty games.  ms is the weakes in the bunch, they cant keep up with the other 2 and have to put down a lot of money to buy short wins with exclusiv 3rd party games.

Check your numbers, the CPU -is not- stronger, unless the PS4's CPU is a potato. Tablet i5's are low voltage, and slower than most standard laptop i5's by a significant margin. The i7's are slower as well. So the PS4 is likely more powerful in the CPU department. Windows tablets will not be getting any dedicated GPUs soon, and they won't be equalling or even rivaling consoles with the intel integrated graphics on the tablet processor die. The Intel HD graphics are underclocked on those for power saving.

All of your points are technically correct.  And, I will point out that you are the first person to really state the obvious difference in the CPUs.

BUT, you are comparing todays tablet processors to the PS4.  The power of the orignal ipad or 4 year old tablet compared to today is quite different.  The 1st gen tablets were extremely weak.  THe currrent ipads/android tablets have exponentially more power.  The chip industry has put its full force behind creating tech advancements for tablets/smartphones.  The bigger breakthroughs will really be seen in 2-3 years.  If you read my updated thoughts in the OP, you can see what I am talking about.


we are talking about a small part of the tablet market. x86 tabs arnt cheap and its just windows (im not totaly sure).

Arm tabs are a lot weaker and cant play PC games, x86 tabs can. an they will win the tab market, because intel is the biggest fish and they are heavily focused an x86.

and there are some realy strom tabs. razer has one thats around the xbone in power, but its not cheap atm.


Dude don't make me laugh. You've got only a tiny inkling about computer hardware. Razer Edge? LOL. That's using a 640M LE. That LE? Means it's less powerful than a regular 640M. Btw, the 640M is less powerful than the GPU in the Xbox One, and the CPU ain't no great shakes either. Another one of the low power i5's that are only about as good as AMD's low power offerings. Intel is making great strides, but claiming that the craptastic Razer Edge is anywhere near the performance of an Xbox One is funny. Not to mention the awful battery life on that thing. I think it's somewhere between 1-2 hours using the GPU to game? That costs the whole benefit of having a tablet, the portability.

You're right about most ARM processors being weaker than similar x86, but not all. Intel's struggling to get the right performance from their low power CPU/GPU combo's, and higher end ARM processors used in tablets are still neck and neck for performance. Android has support for x86 processors, and a few tablets even use them. I think the Dell Venue 8 has one (not the Pro, so you don't look up the wrong one). They can't play 32 bit games, that's true. iOS, last I knew, is switching to 64 - bit. Windows tabs are nice, I own one, and like it, but I don't know that they'd ever outsell the casual crowd buying iPads and Android tabs. Windows 8 is a great OS, imo, for tablets. Decent on desktop, and that's what I run on my computer, but only decent. 

By the way, Windows tabs like the Dell Venue 8 Pro and Lenovo whatcha-ma-callit are 32-bit for around $220. That's pretty darn cheap. Most people don't want Windows on their tablets though, or so the sales figures claim. 

 

On a related note, why are you still arguing this? You keep giving faulty information. I'm not trying to be rude, but you keep coming back with incorrect stuff over and over.