Cobretti2 said:
-CraZed- said:
SlayerRondo said:
Aielyn said:
Clearly it can't be the fault of the NRA pushing so hard to deregulate the industry and get guns into the hands of more people, right?
That's why Australia's massacre rate has skyrocketed since the Port Arthur Massacre that triggered the massive gun buyback scheme and dramatic increase of gun control here that was implemented by a conservative government...
Oh, right. Since that gun control introduction, there has been a total of ONE gun massacre in Australia. In nearly 20 years. With that one happening more than 12 years ago. Here's the list of years in which gun massacres happened in Australia in recent history: 1984, 1987, 1987, 1987, 1990, 1992, 1996, 2002... and none since then.
Is it that we Australians are inherently less bloodthirsty than Americans? Or is it that gun control actually works, when it's applied across an entire country rather than having a different law in each state allowing those with intent to massacre being able to just cross state lines to get hold of the guns they'll use?
Yes, to hell with facts. What's important here is that those who like guns and want more of them out there are being unfairly slandered, while those evil liberals are getting off scot free when they should be attacked all-out for their abuse of 'facts'. |
Are you seriously claiming that liberals do not often during gun control discussions, misrepresent the facts and make emotional arguments as opposed to reasoned ones?
Also gun deaths were already on the decline before the gun control laws were introduced in Australia in 1997.
Gun Deaths in Australia 1987 = 569
Gun Deaths in Australia 1997 = 333 Ten Year Deline = 236
Gun Deaths in Australia 2007 = 190 Ten Year Decline = 143
Australian Bereau of Statistics (ABS). Causes of Death publication series
Australia is just a more peacefull country than America is.
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It is? Why is it then that violent crime is actually on the rise in Australia while it is on the decline here in the US?
Other than armed robbery Australia's rates are nearly double that of the US and have been for quite some time.
http://www.aic.gov.au/documents/0/B/6/%7B0B619F44-B18B-47B4-9B59-F87BA643CBAA%7Dfacts11.pdf
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/crimestats/
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lol those are assualts. Australia is a very nanny state. If you have a punch up over some girl cause you are drunk that is considered assault. Direct attacks on strangers via assault is probably low for domestics. Most those residential assaults would be domestic violence.
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Those stats don't just include fist fights. They also include sexual assaults, kidnapping etc. The only stat I could find where the US is ahead (or behind in the case of being more peaceful) is outright armed robbery and even in that case Australia is only about 30 points lower (per 100,000) than the US and that is with Australia having what, a tenth of the US population?
I have a lot of love for our compatriots in the Land Down Under (served with some Aussies, and one Kiwi 
in Baghdad) but the facts just don't support your assertion that we here in the US are less peaceful. Of course, we don't eat Vegemite so there is that.
