Zelda for Wii U Wishlist

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VanceIX said:

spemanig said:

VanceIX said:

spemanig said:

If you can't take critisism and someone arguing your points, that's your issue. If I didn't care about your opinions, I wouldn't bother arguing them.

I can't take someone that completely ignores what other people think and then calls them "non-fans" when they don't agree with them. You made a post for a Zelda wishlist, and as soon as someone comes in with their own thoughts you bash their ideas as "retarded", and refuse to listen to any and all criticism. You've done this to multiple people in this thread, why even bother making an opinion thread?

I didn't call anyone a non-fan when they disagreed with me. I called people who feel the need to riot over something as insignifigant as an artstyle nonfans, because they are. I don't care if I agree with their opinion. If you're going to piss and moan and "riot" because a game didn't adopt the artstyle you prefer and you feel like you're entitled to something else, you're not a fan; you're a brat.

I didn't bash anyone's opinion or ideas. I critisized things I didn't agree on, just like people critisized me on this very thread. I didn't whine and say that they where "bashing my ideas." I backed up my ideas until they felt satisfied enough to move on. If you can't take criticism, you shouldn't voice an opinion in the first place. Get a thicker skin. You're acting like I'm personally attacking you.

The "retarded" comment was about your convition that out of the tens of thousands of talented voice actors, there's not one alive that is talented enough to accurately, satisfyingly, and authentically portray a character as cliche as Ganondorf. You don't think that "idea" is retarded? Fine. It's not retarded. It's close minded and it's disrespectful to every talented voice in the industry.

No one is "pissing and moaning" but you about VAs needing to be in a game. Does that make you a non-fan? Fans can have preferences for art styles, and if they don't like one, they should raise their voices. You know why?

That's how change happens.

Real fans are the ones that express themselves actively in a community, whether it be through criticism opr encouragement. Fans don't just accept whatever companies roll out. Real fans know that the Wii U needs a realistic Zelda due to the way it is suffering, a realistic Zelda would move much, much more units than a cartoon Zelda. Real fans want the franchise to succeed.

You're attacking me by calling my opinions "retarded", for one. If you don't see that as immature, I don't know what to say. I don't need to grow thicker skin, you need to understand that you can't call people's opinions "retarded", as it makes you look bad, no one else. You're just showing that you are immature and can't deal with other fans criticizing a franchise. 

You made an opinions thread, and I stated my opinion, which you then decided to call "retarded", which is childish beyond all means. Learn that everyone has their "wishlist" for a game, and don't attack other's opinions on them. Seriously. 

I honestly can't believe what I am reading. You have to be the most entitled person I've met on this site. That's absolutely bullshit. You don't get to decide what artstyle "real fans" should demand. You're acting like stylistic presentation decreases the quality of the game and "fans" should demand your specific opinion. It makes you come off as a close minded brat. Inconsequencial change doesn't need to happen. There's nothing objectively wrong with any artstyle, the same way there isn't anything wrong with adult Link. If the next Zelda has the stupid TP artstyle and adult Link that you seem to think is objectively required for the franchise even though it's literally appeared in one game and is the least canon of all the artstyles because of it, of course I'm going to voice my disappointment, but I'm not going to go on a tyrade demanding that Aonuma make the Zelda game that I personally think the fans "deserve," because I'm not a close-minded idiot. But you make it sound like it's an inate flaw; an objective issue when the franchise represents itself in any other artstyle than the one that you specifically want. When you do that, you stop expressing an opinion and start feinting it off as fact and that is retarded, if we're being frank.

I can't stop you from feeling that way, but I will definitely be soothed by the music of your frustrations when everything you think you're entitled to is reconfirmed to be absent from this next Zelda title. Riot until my ears bleed.

I never said that anyone was pissing and moaning about anything. I said that those who do, are brats. That's you taking things personally, again.

But make no mistake about it, thinking that no one can ever voice a good Ganon is retarded. Come up with a valid arguement as to why every single voice actor in all of videogames would portray a shitty ganon, and I will take that back. I guess that is an opinion I called retarded. I guess it is childish, but compared to the kinds of things you've said here, I think I'll be okay.

Again, no ones "attacking" anything. Critisim. Thicker skin. Rinse-repeat.

Honestly, I'm not going to subject myself further to arguing with children. "Real fans know that the Wii U needs a realistic Zelda due to the way it is suffering." Jesus Christ.

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