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omgwtfbbq said:
windbane said:
Gballzack said:
Hopefully each stop using online gaming as an excuse for decreasing the content in the games they're comming out with. While an online experience is fun, it should only ever be suplemental, not a necessity of gameplay. Hopefully they also stop using their online services to blur the line between PCs and Game Consoles to allow them the convenience of less resources put towards quality control in that any flaw can be patched later. Why the hell should I have to download a patch for anything on a console game, even if its just a supplementary feature? Why are there upgrade crashes? Why is every flaw I left behind on the PC for the convenience of Consoles showing up in my Console Gaming?! Why do I need to play ranked online battles online to eek out the 60 dollars worth of gameplay I payed for? With higher production costs and increasingly longer development time tables on systems like the 360 and PS3 I see a continuing trend of the increasingly shorter and shorter single player aspect of the game and an increased dependency on multiplayer online functions to create the illusion of a much larger game with only the fraction of resources.

A lot of people like online games. You really do act like you work for Nintendo.

And a lot of people like a flashed out single player experience.

Gballzack is correct, a lot more games are starting to leave the Single player experience on the side and just release games with strong multiplayer. Of course, this is not true in all cases (Olivion), but I would love more games to improve their single player experience and have the multiplayer as an addition.

Wii games seem to be going this route, but most likely that's not through choice but because Nintendo's online system is so crappy. I'm all for single player and local multiplayer, that's the entire reason I bought a console rather than just upgraded my PC.


I think you're both completely wrong.  Just because there are more online games on consoles does not mean there are fewer single player games.  Most of the best games still have great single player experiences.  Now, there are also online-only games but it's not like you have to play those.  

Every game I've rented so far for the PS3 has had a long single player experience, including the ones with great online elements.  Just because some people are saying the multi-player is more fun does not mean the single player experience is not complete.  If you don't like Halo's and Gears of War's single player, don't play those games.  Play Resistance, heh... 

Online games is a much better trend than sloppy ports and crappy mini-games.  But I guess all 3 are part of the great variety console games are getting.

I'd also like to point out that patches are generally for the multi-player experience, like Motorstorm's "fix" of the boosting.  There's nothing wrong with patches because if the shipped game is terrible and has to be patched it will be punished by reviews of games because they review shipped copies. 

In summary:  stop whining, online games are great.