Porcupeth said:
zero129 said:
VanceIX said:
I'm a fan of no expansions or DLC (other than vanity items) in games, like it used to be before last gen and how it still is for the most part with Nintendo games.
Developers should concentrate into getting all the content in a game beforehand, and then work on new, better games after, not some shitty map that they'll sell you for $5 a pop (and when they are gracious enough to give them for free, people gush for them, even if they make up for it by selling core gameplay elements instead).
Also, isn't a season pass essentially Day 1 DLC? A company is basically telling you that they are already developing content that you will have to pay for, and they want you to pay for the (non-existing at that point) content is davance. It's almost worse, tbh.
Just because I don't roll over and quietly ignore the fact that companies are using the same terrible strategies that crappy free-to-play mobile games do dosen't mean that I'm "a fan of a Company its devs can charge for whatever they want".
I'm a fan of companies that charge the standard $60 for a fulfilling game, and then for extra content sell vanity items. Companies like Nintendo, Valve, etc. Sony makes tons of amazing games that don't use the crappy expansion format, and I love those too.
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No i wasnt calling you one of the fans that will take whatever a company gives them, i was originaly agreeing with your post and saying that people who are ok with this a fans of said company but not you but i can see how you could mistake what i said.
But anyway i agree with everything you say except for the expension packs thing, As a PC gamer Expension Packs from before 360 and PS3 launched where pretty much full games for like €20-30 Not just a few maps etc but pretty much a whole new games worth of content and could change the whole game experance thats the type of expension packs i dont mind, but once the 360 and PS3 launched DLC became the new norm and proper expension packs went the way of the dodo...
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so what is the problem here?
the season pass is 20€
it gave us a new class and MP abilities, it's going to give us a new co-op mode, and then 2-3 more additions to both MP and CO-OP modes (not maps). Value is only poor if you buy these things separately.
Every other FPS with MP sells 2-3 maps in a 15-20€ pack. Now that is atrocious. The 50€ season passes we see don't even have the same amount of content of KZ's season pass. Or if they do, they have the "same", but cost nearly 3 times more.
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Except it's things that should have been included in the main game. I mean, c'mon charging for co-op? That's just low. I have Killzone, the game isn't worth the full $60, let alone the $20 they want for a season pass.
Just because other games do it worse dosen't mean it's any better. I prefer not to choose the lesser of the two evils. Gameplay modes are not at all hard to include in a normal game, it's the monetization strategy that companies use to squeeze money out of fans. Until people stop being suckers for it, they'll continue to get worse. They use the same strategy free-to-play games do, except they charge you $60 up front for an incomplete game, and have the audacity to ask you $20 for a Day 1 season pass that you'll need to complete the game.
Edit: And by the way, every other FPS offers season passes too. It's not just Killzone where the DLC is "only" $20.
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