| grbox2001 said: "You can't prove Facts with Science, but you prove it with Spirituality" Ok here is where I have to jump in. The mere fact that we can be having this discussion is a testament to the power of science. All of the advancements in our understanding of the world and our mainipulation of physical process comes from science. Without an accurate understanding of electromagnetic forces and the world at an atomic level digital computers, the Internet, the electricity that powers all of those things, none of them would be possible. Even you must admit most, if not all, of your daily experiences are explained and can be understood with science. Before Newton, Kepler, and a few others, people had no idea about how to explain the orbits of the planets around the sun, in fact people used to think the Earth was the center of the solar system. But with science and progress we have grown to understand so much more about our incredible universe. Saying that Faith can prove things is a dangerous game. That line of thinking is responsible for much pain and suffering in our world. If two people or groups have different faiths and claim something is true how can you decide who is right? I am assuming you are a Christian? So what do you say to the Billions of people on Earth who aren't Christian? Who claim that their Faith had led them to different facts? Ah, everyone should read The Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan and try to think critically about everything in their lives. |
I have read it, Read conversations with Carl Sagan, he was a good man,
I highly recommend conversations with god
and these books
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the 12th planet, Genesis revisited, the wars of God and man,(proof of nuclear wars fought on earth)
http://sitchin.com/booklist.htm
read Behold a Pale Horse http://www.hourofthetime.com/william.htm
here is a youtube link before the sheriffs killed him http://youtube.com/watch?v=W7fShgRlG9g&mode=related&search=
Phil Schnieder.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eA4U01GloQc&mode=related&search=
I have friends in Delta, And remember I was a top student in hasnd to hand/ no more can be posted.
Phil http://www.apfn.org/apfn/ex_wifephil.htm
I will go on record and say this in closing, I assisted in contractual employment for Gunderson,
I had an experience in which I can not say , other than you believe what you want to believe and I will believe what I want to believe.
CLose the thread now!
