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Hawk said:
fooflexible said:
Cheating implies playing with an advantage not intended by the developer. Downloading a game save to skip a level, is like skiping a chapter of a dvd we don't like, or speed reading past a boring page in a book, I'm not playing with weapons I shouldn't have yet, or a god mode. And game saves are not affecting anyones online experience.

If your principles are so high and mighty that you wouldn't dare skip a level by cheating, that's great for you, but now we are going to impose these principles on everyone?

Secondly this is not good for business, people downloading games saves aren't people stealing games, they are spending healthy amount of money on this industry, they are also people with disposable income as they have pissed money away on devices to hook up their harddrive or memory devices to their pcs. So Microsoft is pissing off good customers. And seriously who's not buying Microsoft games because a few other people out there are cheating? No one. So as Microsoft falls to third place in the console race, in arguably Sony's biggest year, Microsoft's strategy is to spend money on policing the only gaming community that has to pay subscription fees.



I don't think using saves from other people should be counted in cheating myself. Do you somehow know that this is specifically counted in their cracking down on cheaters?

Though I definitely think they SHOULD police the only gaming community that you pay subscription fees for, to make it fair for everyone that is paying. Though I didn't realize people were cheating on gamerscores. Why would you do that? Personally I think they should somehow help with the vulgar online chat. I'd like it very much if, rather than having to mute people constantly, you could set it to only be able to chat with or hear people on your friends list, or within your current group, in Halo 3 for instance.


 I agree that they should police unfair online play, this isn't about playing unfairly, it's about having game saves and gamerscores you didn't earn, which wouldn't affect online play at all.  Personally I do get the gamerscore thing either, but I like downloading game saves for other reasons, MS should come up with a way of letting you use them and disabling your ability to get the added gamerscore. And btw you'll be branded a cheater even if you moved your gamesaves to a new account, that you earned, because they have no way of knowing you did it.

And your right, they do nothing about the language online, I have heard enough racist slurs that would get anyone kicked out of any public place, or the cops called on them. Threats cursing, I've plenty of times turned off the the chat options. And for the online community this is obvioulsy a bigger problem, that affects everyone. Please I've never once heard anyone complain the'd leave MS if they don't stop and punish people with aritifially high gamerscores. If yours is cheap then you know it and you can't have any pride in it. I'd rather MS put their money into a new IP.